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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2026 10:55:05 -0300
From: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@...labora.com>
To: Gary Guo <gary@...yguo.net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] rust: clk: use the type-state pattern



> On 3 Feb 2026, at 10:42, Gary Guo <gary@...yguo.net> wrote:
> 
> On Tue Feb 3, 2026 at 1:33 PM GMT, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>> Hi Boris,
>> 
>>> On 3 Feb 2026, at 07:39, Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...labora.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 19 Jan 2026 12:35:21 +0000
>>> Alice Ryhl <aliceryhl@...gle.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 11:45:57AM +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 08, 2026 at 11:14:37AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:  
>>>>>>> For example, it's quite typical to have (at least) one clock for the bus
>>>>>>> interface that drives the register, and one that drives the main
>>>>>>> component logic. The former needs to be enabled only when you're
>>>>>>> accessing the registers (and can be abstracted with
>>>>>>> regmap_mmio_attach_clk for example), and the latter needs to be enabled
>>>>>>> only when the device actually starts operating.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You have a similar thing for the prepare vs enable thing. The difference
>>>>>>> between the two is that enable can be called into atomic context but
>>>>>>> prepare can't.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So for drivers that would care about this, you would create your device
>>>>>>> with an unprepared clock, and then at various times during the driver
>>>>>>> lifetime, you would mutate that state.  
>>>> 
>>>> The case where you're doing it only while accessing registers is
>>>> interesting, because that means the Enable bit may be owned by a local
>>>> variable. We may imagine an:
>>>> 
>>>>   let enabled = self.prepared_clk.enable_scoped();
>>>>   ... use registers
>>>>   drop(enabled);
>>>> 
>>>> Now ... this doesn't quite work with the current API - the current
>>>> Enabled stated owns both a prepare and enable count, but the above keeps
>>>> the prepare count in `self` and the enabled count in a local variable.
>>>> But it could be done with a fourth state, or by a closure method:
>>>> 
>>>>   self.prepared_clk.with_enabled(|| {
>>>>       ... use registers
>>>>   });
>>>> 
>>>> All of this would work with an immutable variable of type Clk<Prepared>.
>>> 
>>> Hm, maybe it'd make sense to implement Clone so we can have a temporary
>>> clk variable that has its own prepare/enable refs and releases them
>>> as it goes out of scope. This implies wrapping *mut bindings::clk in an
>>> Arc<> because bindings::clk is not ARef, but should be relatively easy
>>> to do. Posting the quick experiment I did with this approach, in case
>>> you're interested [1]
>>> 
>>> [1]https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/bbrezillon/linux/-/commit/d5d04da4f4f6192b6e6760d5f861c69596c7d837
>> 
>> The problem with what you have suggested is that the previous state is not
>> consumed if you can clone it, and consuming the previous state is a pretty key
>> element in ensuring you cannot misuse it. For example, here:
>> 
>> let enabled_clk = prepared_clk.clone().enable()?;
>> // do stuff
>> // enabled_clk goes out of scope and releases the enable
>> // ref it had
>> 
>> prepared_clk is still alive. Now, this may not be the end of the world in this
>> particular case, but for API consistency, I'd say we should probably avoid this
>> behavior.
> 
> Is this an issue though? You cannot mistakenly own `Clk<Enabled>` while the clk
> is not enabled, (and similarly for `Prepared`), and that should be sufficient.

It is not an issue. However, I just find it a bit confusing. With a typestate, one
usually expects state transitions where a new state fully consumes the previous
one, and that assumption is “broken” in a way when you add clone().

> 
> Having `Clk<Prepared>` makes no guarantee on if the clk is enabled or not anyway
> as you can have another user do `Clk<Unprepared>::get().enable()`.

Although you’re right here, I find this less confusing than clone(). You
have to explicitly craft a new Clk<Enabled>, where a clone() is a shorter way
to basically get around the “state transition” idea on an _existing_ Clk
reference.

This is a bit pedantic on my side though, so I have no problem in adding
clone() if it's the consensus of the majority.

> 
> The only guarantee is that the state the clk have is going to be greater than or
> equal to the type state, so allowing cloning an intermediate state is no
> problem.
> 
> Best,
> Gary
> 
>> 
>> I see that Alice suggested a closure approach. IMHO, we should use that
>> instead.
>> 
>> — Daniel


Is there any pushback on the closure approach? If so, mind sharing why?

— Daniel

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