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Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0ha8VG2k42qCgWXmx96Rn9WY7x10dLEipJMj2kRFEfHmw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2026 21:20:42 +0100
From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>
Cc: "Wysocki, Rafael J" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>, Frank Li <Frank.li@....com>, 
	alexandre.belloni@...tlin.com, linux-i3c@...ts.infradead.org, 
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] i3c: mipi-i3c-hci: Allow parent to manage runtime PM

On Tue, Feb 3, 2026 at 5:57 PM Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com> wrote:
>
> On 03/02/2026 18:22, Wysocki, Rafael J wrote:
> >
> > On 2/3/2026 4:59 PM, Frank Li wrote:
> >> On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 02:54:44PM +0200, Adrian Hunter wrote:
> >>> + Rafael
> >>>
> >>> Rafael, this is not at all urgent, but when you have time
> >>> please have a look at this patch set.  There is also some
> >>> more explanation below.  Is it acceptable?  Is there a
> >>> better way?
> >>>
> >>> On 02/02/2026 18:25, Frank Li wrote:
> >>>> Does your device Hierarchy look like
> >>>>
> >>>>             PCI device
> >>>>                 |
> >>>>         -----------------
> >>>>        HCI1            HCI2
> >>>>         |               |
> >>>>       I3C M1          I3C M2
> >>> Yes and no.  There is only 1 real device : the PCI device.
> >>> It implements the MIPI I3C HCI standard which allows multiple
> >>> I3C bus controllers in one device (in our case 2 controllers).
> >>>
> >>> The PCI driver mipi-i3c-hci-pci creates 2 platform devices,
> >>> one for each controller.  The platform driver is mipi-i3c-hci:
> >>>
> >>>   Driver                        Device                     Bus
> >>>
> >>>   mipi-i3c-hci-pci            0000:00:11.1                 PCI
> >>>                              /            \
> >>>   mipi-i3c-hci      intel-lpss-i3c.0  intel-lpss-i3c.1     Platform
> >>>
> >>> LPSS I3C also supports wake-up from in-band interrupt (IBI) via
> >>> PCI PME.  The PME only works when the PCI device is in a low power
> >>> state (D3hot in our case).  Also the PME is effectively shared by
> >>> the 2 controllers i.e. an IBI signal (the controller's SDA line
> >>> pulled low) for either controller will cause the PME.
> >>>
> >>> That means there are only 2 valid configurations:
> >>>
> >>>     1: Both controllers enabled to receive IBIs
> >>>         PCI device    D0
> >>>         Controller 1    Enabled
> >>>         Controller 2    Enabled
> >>>
> >>>     2: Both controllers disabled to enable PME wakeup
> >>>         PCI device    D3hot
> >>>         Controller 1    Disabled
> >>>         Controller 2    Disabled
> >>>
> >>> However, represented as platform devices, the 2 controllers
> >>> runtime suspend and resume independently from each other.
> >>> Whereas they effectively need to runtime suspend (or resume)
> >>> at the same time.
> >>>
> >>> The proposed solution is for the PCI driver mipi-i3c-hci-pci
> >>> to take over managing runtime PM for both controllers, calling
> >>> into mipi-i3c-hci when it is safe to do so, to save/restore state
> >>> and disable/enable the controllers one after the other.
> >>>
> >>> Current situation (I3C next branch):
> >>>
> >>>     PCI device    Runtime PM enabled, dependent on child devices
> >>>             PCI subsystem controls PCI device power state
> >>>
> >>>     Controller 1    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
> >>>             I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
> >>>             Runtime suspend: disable and save state
> >>>             Runtime resume: restore state and enable
> >>>
> >>>     Controller 2    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
> >>>             I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
> >>>             Runtime suspend: disable and save state
> >>>             Runtime resume: restore state and enable
> >>>
> >>> Proposed (this patch set):
> >>>
> >>>     PCI device    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
> >>>             I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the PCI device
> >>>             For each controller:
> >>>                 Call into mipi-i3c-hci (when it is safe)
> >>>                     Runtime suspend: disable and save state
> >>>                     Runtime resume: restore state and enable
> >>>
> >>>     Controller 1    Runtime PM disabled
> >>>
> >>>     Controller 2    Runtime PM disabled
> >> Controller 1/2 is child device of PCI device.
> >>
> >> So first patch "i3c: master: Allow controller drivers to select runtime PM device"
> >> is not necessary.
> >>
> >> You can enable controller 1 and 2 Runtime PM with dummy operation.
> >>
> >> When controller 1 run time suspend, parent PCI device will reduce ref counter
> >> when controller 2 run time suspend, parent PCI device will reduce ref counter
> >>
> >> Only runtime pm reference counter of PCI device is 0, PCI device's run time
> >> suspend will be called, you can do actual disable and save work.
> >
> > This sounds to me like it should work.
> So, like this, then?
>
>         PCI device      Runtime PM enabled
>                         For each controller:
>                                 Call into mipi-i3c-hci (when it is safe)
>                                         Runtime suspend: disable and save state
>                                         Runtime resume: restore state and enable
>
>         Controller 1    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
>                         I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
>                         Runtime suspend: does nothing
>                         Runtime resume: does nothing
>
>         Controller 2    Runtime PM enabled plus auto-suspend
>                         I3C subsystem runtime PM gets/puts the Platform device
>                         Runtime suspend: does nothing
>                         Runtime resume: does nothing

I would think so.

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