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Message-ID: <CAKfTPtBrOrGSxYFyBY0EMo=OurgT5aoamuzXXj3O9eWCH5zniQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 11:53:27 +0100
From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@....com>
Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, peterz@...radead.org, mingo@...hat.com, 
	juri.lelli@...hat.com, dietmar.eggemann@....com, kprateek.nayak@....com, 
	pierre.gondois@....com
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2] sched/fair: Skip SCHED_IDLE rq for SCHED_IDLE task

On Tue, 3 Feb 2026 at 19:49, Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@....com> wrote:
>
> CPUs whose rq only have SCHED_IDLE tasks running are considered to be
> equivalent to truly idle CPUs during wakeup path. For fork and exec
> SCHED_IDLE is even preferred.
> This is based on the assumption that the SCHED_IDLE CPU is not in an
> idle state and might be in a higher P-state, allowing the task/wakee
> to run immediately without sharing the rq.
>
> However this assumption doesn't hold if the wakee has SCHED_IDLE policy
> itself, as it will share the rq with existing SCHED_IDLE tasks. In this
> case, we are better off continuing to look for a truly idle CPU.
>
> On a Intel Xeon 2-socket with 64 logical cores in total this yields
> for kernel compilation using SCHED_IDLE:
>
> +---------+----------------------+----------------------+--------+
> | workers | mainline (seconds)   | patch (seconds)      | delta% |
> +=========+======================+======================+========+
> |       1 | 4384.728 ± 21.085    | 3843.250 ± 16.235    | -12.35 |
> |       2 | 2242.513 ± 2.099     | 1971.696 ± 2.842     | -12.08 |
> |       4 | 1199.324 ± 1.823     | 1033.744 ± 1.803     | -13.81 |
> |       8 |  649.083 ± 1.959     |  559.123 ± 4.301     | -13.86 |
> |      16 |  370.425 ± 0.915     |  325.906 ± 4.623     | -12.02 |
> |      32 |  234.651 ± 2.255     |  217.266 ± 0.253     |  -7.41 |
> |      64 |  202.286 ± 1.452     |  197.977 ± 2.275     |  -2.13 |
> |     128 |  217.092 ± 1.687     |  212.164 ± 1.138     |  -2.27 |
> +---------+----------------------+----------------------+--------+
>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@....com>

Reviewed-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>

> ---
> v2: Reword commit message, SCHED_IDLE aren't always preferred,
> but rather equivalent
> Factor out choose_sched_idle_rq() too (Both Vincent)
>
>  kernel/sched/fair.c | 32 +++++++++++++++++++-------------
>  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index 3eaeceda71b0..6510ab6eb44b 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -6832,9 +6832,15 @@ static int sched_idle_rq(struct rq *rq)
>                         rq->nr_running);
>  }
>
> -static int sched_idle_cpu(int cpu)
> +static int choose_sched_idle_rq(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p)
>  {
> -       return sched_idle_rq(cpu_rq(cpu));
> +       return sched_idle_rq(rq) && !task_has_idle_policy(p);
> +}
> +
> +static int choose_idle_cpu(int cpu, struct task_struct *p)
> +{
> +       return available_idle_cpu(cpu) ||
> +              choose_sched_idle_rq(cpu_rq(cpu), p);
>  }
>
>  static void
> @@ -7400,7 +7406,7 @@ sched_balance_find_dst_group_cpu(struct sched_group *group, struct task_struct *
>                 if (!sched_core_cookie_match(rq, p))
>                         continue;
>
> -               if (sched_idle_cpu(i))
> +               if (choose_sched_idle_rq(rq, p))
>                         return i;
>
>                 if (available_idle_cpu(i)) {
> @@ -7491,8 +7497,7 @@ static inline int sched_balance_find_dst_cpu(struct sched_domain *sd, struct tas
>
>  static inline int __select_idle_cpu(int cpu, struct task_struct *p)
>  {
> -       if ((available_idle_cpu(cpu) || sched_idle_cpu(cpu)) &&
> -           sched_cpu_cookie_match(cpu_rq(cpu), p))
> +       if (choose_idle_cpu(cpu, p) && sched_cpu_cookie_match(cpu_rq(cpu), p))
>                 return cpu;
>
>         return -1;
> @@ -7565,7 +7570,8 @@ static int select_idle_core(struct task_struct *p, int core, struct cpumask *cpu
>                 if (!available_idle_cpu(cpu)) {
>                         idle = false;
>                         if (*idle_cpu == -1) {
> -                               if (sched_idle_cpu(cpu) && cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, cpus)) {
> +                               if (choose_sched_idle_rq(cpu_rq(cpu), p) &&
> +                                   cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, cpus)) {
>                                         *idle_cpu = cpu;
>                                         break;
>                                 }
> @@ -7600,7 +7606,7 @@ static int select_idle_smt(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int t
>                  */
>                 if (!cpumask_test_cpu(cpu, sched_domain_span(sd)))
>                         continue;
> -               if (available_idle_cpu(cpu) || sched_idle_cpu(cpu))
> +               if (choose_idle_cpu(cpu, p))
>                         return cpu;
>         }
>
> @@ -7722,7 +7728,7 @@ select_idle_capacity(struct task_struct *p, struct sched_domain *sd, int target)
>         for_each_cpu_wrap(cpu, cpus, target) {
>                 unsigned long cpu_cap = capacity_of(cpu);
>
> -               if (!available_idle_cpu(cpu) && !sched_idle_cpu(cpu))
> +               if (!choose_idle_cpu(cpu, p))
>                         continue;
>
>                 fits = util_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, cpu);
> @@ -7793,7 +7799,7 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target)
>          */
>         lockdep_assert_irqs_disabled();
>
> -       if ((available_idle_cpu(target) || sched_idle_cpu(target)) &&
> +       if (choose_idle_cpu(target, p) &&
>             asym_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, target))
>                 return target;
>
> @@ -7801,7 +7807,7 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target)
>          * If the previous CPU is cache affine and idle, don't be stupid:
>          */
>         if (prev != target && cpus_share_cache(prev, target) &&
> -           (available_idle_cpu(prev) || sched_idle_cpu(prev)) &&
> +           choose_idle_cpu(prev, p) &&
>             asym_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, prev)) {
>
>                 if (!static_branch_unlikely(&sched_cluster_active) ||
> @@ -7833,7 +7839,7 @@ static int select_idle_sibling(struct task_struct *p, int prev, int target)
>         if (recent_used_cpu != prev &&
>             recent_used_cpu != target &&
>             cpus_share_cache(recent_used_cpu, target) &&
> -           (available_idle_cpu(recent_used_cpu) || sched_idle_cpu(recent_used_cpu)) &&
> +           choose_idle_cpu(recent_used_cpu, p) &&
>             cpumask_test_cpu(recent_used_cpu, p->cpus_ptr) &&
>             asym_fits_cpu(task_util, util_min, util_max, recent_used_cpu)) {
>
> @@ -12261,7 +12267,7 @@ static void sched_balance_domains(struct rq *rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
>  {
>         int continue_balancing = 1;
>         int cpu = rq->cpu;
> -       int busy = idle != CPU_IDLE && !sched_idle_cpu(cpu);
> +       int busy = idle != CPU_IDLE && !sched_idle_rq(rq);
>         unsigned long interval;
>         struct sched_domain *sd;
>         /* Earliest time when we have to do rebalance again */
> @@ -12299,7 +12305,7 @@ static void sched_balance_domains(struct rq *rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
>                                  * state even if we migrated tasks. Update it.
>                                  */
>                                 idle = idle_cpu(cpu);
> -                               busy = !idle && !sched_idle_cpu(cpu);
> +                               busy = !idle && !sched_idle_rq(rq);
>                         }
>                         sd->last_balance = jiffies;
>                         interval = get_sd_balance_interval(sd, busy);
> --
> 2.34.1
>

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