[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eSc=0zS+6Rk-c_0P-Q1Y8_9Xv58G5BYxieKpv_XaSj0wg@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 16:42:12 -0800
From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>, x86@...nel.org,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: VMX: Add quirk to allow L1 to set FREEZE_IN_SMM in vmcs12
On Tue, Feb 3, 2026 at 6:00 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2026, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 7:47 PM Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2026 at 4:42 PM Sean Christopherson <seanjc@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jan 13, 2026, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > > > > Add KVM_X86_QUIRK_VMCS12_FREEZE_IN_SMM to allow L1 to set
> > > > > IA32_DEBUGCTL.FREEZE_IN_SMM in vmcs12 when using nested VMX. Prior to
> > > > > commit 6b1dd26544d0 ("KVM: VMX: Preserve host's
> > > > > DEBUGCTLMSR_FREEZE_IN_SMM while running the guest"), L1 could set
> > > > > FREEZE_IN_SMM in vmcs12 to freeze PMCs during physical SMM coincident
> > > > > with L2's execution. The quirk is enabled by default for backwards
> > > > > compatibility; userspace can disable it via KVM_CAP_DISABLE_QUIRKS2 if
> > > > > consistency with WRMSR(IA32_DEBUGCTL) is desired.
> > > >
> > > > It's probably worth calling out that KVM will still drop FREEZE_IN_SMM in vmcs02
> > > >
> > > > if (vmx->nested.nested_run_pending &&
> > > > (vmcs12->vm_entry_controls & VM_ENTRY_LOAD_DEBUG_CONTROLS)) {
> > > > kvm_set_dr(vcpu, 7, vmcs12->guest_dr7);
> > > > vmx_guest_debugctl_write(vcpu, vmcs12->guest_ia32_debugctl &
> > > > vmx_get_supported_debugctl(vcpu, false)); <====
> > > > } else {
> > > > kvm_set_dr(vcpu, 7, vcpu->arch.dr7);
> > > > vmx_guest_debugctl_write(vcpu, vmx->nested.pre_vmenter_debugctl);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > both from a correctness standpoint and so that users aren't mislead into thinking
> > > > the quirk lets L1 control of FREEZE_IN_SMM while running L2.
> > >
> > > Yes, it's probably worth pointing out that the VM is now subject to
> > > the whims of the L0 administrators.
> > >
> > > While that makes some sense for the legacy vPMU, where KVM is just
> > > another client of host perf, perhaps the decision should be revisited
> > > in the case of the MPT vPMU, where KVM owns the PMU while the vCPU is
> > > in VMX non-root operation.
>
> Eh, running guests with FREEZE_IN_SMM=0 seems absolutely crazy from a security
> perspective. If an admin wants to disable FREEZE_IN_SMM, they get to keep the
> pieces. And KVM definitely isn't going to override the admin, e.g. to allow the
> guest to profile host SMM.
I'm not sure what you mean by "they get to keep the pieces." What is
the security problem with allowing L1 to freeze *guest-owned* PMCs
during SMM?
> > > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.c b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.c
> > > > > index 0521b55d47a5..bc8f0b3aa70b 100644
> > > > > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.c
> > > > > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/nested.c
> > > > > @@ -3298,10 +3298,24 @@ static int nested_vmx_check_guest_state(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu,
> > > > > if (CC(vmcs12->guest_cr4 & X86_CR4_CET && !(vmcs12->guest_cr0 & X86_CR0_WP)))
> > > > > return -EINVAL;
> > > > >
> > > > > - if ((vmcs12->vm_entry_controls & VM_ENTRY_LOAD_DEBUG_CONTROLS) &&
> > > > > - (CC(!kvm_dr7_valid(vmcs12->guest_dr7)) ||
> > > > > - CC(!vmx_is_valid_debugctl(vcpu, vmcs12->guest_ia32_debugctl, false))))
> > > > > - return -EINVAL;
> > > > > + if (vmcs12->vm_entry_controls & VM_ENTRY_LOAD_DEBUG_CONTROLS) {
> > > > > + u64 debugctl = vmcs12->guest_ia32_debugctl;
> > > > > +
> > > > > + /*
> > > > > + * FREEZE_IN_SMM is not virtualized, but allow L1 to set it in
> > > > > + * L2's DEBUGCTL under a quirk for backwards compatibility.
> > > > > + * Prior to KVM taking ownership of the bit to ensure PMCs are
> > > > > + * frozen during physical SMM, L1 could set FREEZE_IN_SMM in
> > > > > + * vmcs12 to freeze PMCs during physical SMM coincident with
> > > > > + * L2's execution.
> > > > > + */
> > > > > + if (kvm_check_has_quirk(vcpu->kvm, KVM_X86_QUIRK_VMCS12_FREEZE_IN_SMM))
> > > > > + debugctl &= ~DEBUGCTLMSR_FREEZE_IN_SMM;
> > > > > +
> > > > > + if (CC(!kvm_dr7_valid(vmcs12->guest_dr7)) ||
> > > > > + CC(!vmx_is_valid_debugctl(vcpu, debugctl, false)))
> > > >
> > > > I'm mildly tempted to say we should quirk the entire consistency check instead of
> > > > limiting it to FREEZE_IN_SMM, purely so that we don't have to add yet another quirk
> > > > if a different setup breaks on a different bit. I suppose we could limit the quirk
> > > > to bits that could have been plausibly set in hardware, because otherwise VM-Entry
> > > > using L2 would VM-Fail, but that's still quite a few bits.
> > > >
> > > > I'm definitely not opposed to a targeted quirk though.
> > >
> > > I have no preference.
>
> After mulling over the options from time to time, I think our best be is to quirk
> only FREEZE_IN_SMM, but very explicity scope the quirk to just the consistency
> check. E.g. maybe KVM_X86_QUIRK_VMCS12_FREEZE_IN_SMM_CC? That should help alert
> readers to the fact that the quirk bypasses the check, but L2 will still see
> FREEZE_IN_SMM=0 (e.g. in the unlikely scenario L1 disables interception of
> DEBUGCTL).
>
> As for why just FREEZE_IN_SMM, in addition to the fact that FREEZE_IN_SMM is the
> only bit that broke anyone (as far as we know, /knock wood), it's also the only
> bit that is host-owned. I.e. unless the host admin likes SMM mucking with things,
> skipping the consistency check isn't terrible from a functionality perspective
> (KVM doesn't honor the bit for emulated SMM, but that's QEMU's problem :-D).
>
> > Would you like me to post a v2?
>
> Yes please.
Powered by blists - more mailing lists