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Message-ID: <b40e6e0a63c4303e048ed0dbc61c09788de98e19@linux.dev>
Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2026 04:12:57 +0000
From: "Yosry Ahmed" <yosry.ahmed@...ux.dev>
To: "Jiayuan Chen" <jiayuan.chen@...ux.dev>, "SeongJae Park" <sj@...nel.org>
Cc: "SeongJae Park" <sj@...nel.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org, "Jiayuan Chen"
 <jiayuan.chen@...pee.com>, "Johannes Weiner" <hannes@...xchg.org>,
 "Michal Hocko" <mhocko@...nel.org>, "Roman Gushchin"
 <roman.gushchin@...ux.dev>, "Shakeel Butt" <shakeel.butt@...ux.dev>,
 "Muchun Song" <muchun.song@...ux.dev>, "Nhat Pham" <nphamcs@...il.com>,
 "Chengming Zhou" <chengming.zhou@...ux.dev>, "Andrew Morton"
 <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, "Nick Terrell" <terrelln@...com>, "David  
 Sterba" <dsterba@...e.com>, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
 linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mm: zswap: add per-memcg stat for incompressible
 pages

> > 
> > On Thu, 5 Feb 2026 13:30:12 +0800 Jiayuan Chen <> wrote:
> >  
> >  
> >  From: Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@...pee.com>
> >  
> >  The global zswap_stored_incompressible_pages counter was added in commit
> >  dca4437a5861 ("mm/zswap: store <PAGE_SIZE compression failed page as-is")
> >  to track how many pages are stored in raw (uncompressed) form in zswap.
> >  However, in containerized environments, knowing which cgroup is
> >  contributing incompressible pages is essential for effective resource
> >  management.
> >  
> >  Add a new memcg stat 'zswpraw' to track incompressible pages per cgroup.
> >  This helps administrators and orchestrators to:
> >  
> >  1. Identify workloads that produce incompressible data (e.g., encrypted
> >  data, already-compressed media, random data) and may not benefit from
> >  zswap.
> >  
> >  2. Make informed decisions about workload placement - moving
> >  incompressible workloads to nodes with larger swap backing devices
> >  rather than relying on zswap.
> >  
> >  3. Debug zswap efficiency issues at the cgroup level without needing to
> >  correlate global stats with individual cgroups.
> >  
> >  While the compression ratio can be estimated from existing stats
> >  (zswap / zswapped * PAGE_SIZE), this doesn't distinguish between
> >  "uniformly poor compression" and "a few completely incompressible pages
> >  mixed with highly compressible ones". The zswpraw stat provides direct
> >  visibility into the latter case.
> >  
> >  Changes
> >  -------
> >  
> >  1. Add zswap_is_raw() helper (include/linux/zswap.h)
> >  - Abstract the PAGE_SIZE comparison logic for identifying raw entries
> >  - Keep the incompressible check in one place for maintainability
> >  
> >  2. Add MEMCG_ZSWAP_RAW stat definition (include/linux/memcontrol.h,
> >  mm/memcontrol.c)
> >  - Add MEMCG_ZSWAP_RAW to memcg_stat_item enum
> >  - Register in memcg_stat_items[] and memory_stats[] arrays
> >  - Export as "zswpraw" in memory.stat
> >  
> >  3. Update statistics accounting (mm/memcontrol.c, mm/zswap.c)
> >  - Track MEMCG_ZSWAP_RAW in obj_cgroup_charge/uncharge_zswap()
> >  - Use zswap_is_raw() helper in zswap.c for consistency
> >  
> >  Test
> >  ----
> >  
> >  I wrote a simple test program[1] that allocates memory and compresses it
> >  with zstd, so kernel zswap cannot compress further.
> >  
> >  $ cgcreate -g memory:test
> >  $ cgexec -g memory:test ./test_zswpraw &
> >  $ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.stat | grep zswp
> >  zswpraw 0
> >  zswpin 0
> >  zswpout 0
> >  zswpwb 0
> >  
> >  $ echo "100M" > /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.reclaim
> >  $ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.stat | grep zswp
> >  zswpraw 104800256
> >  zswpin 0
> >  zswpout 51222
> >  zswpwb 0
> >  
> >  $ pkill test_zswpraw
> >  $ cat /sys/fs/cgroup/test/memory.stat | grep zswp
> >  zswpraw 0
> >  zswpin 1
> >  zswpout 51222
> >  zswpwb 0
> >  
> >  [1] https://gist.github.com/mrpre/00432c6154250326994fbeaf62e0e6f1
> >  
> >  Signed-off-by: Jiayuan Chen <jiayuan.chen@...pee.com>
> >  ---
> >  include/linux/memcontrol.h | 1 +
> >  include/linux/zswap.h | 9 +++++++++
> >  mm/memcontrol.c | 6 ++++++
> >  mm/zswap.c | 6 +++---
> >  4 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >  
> >  As others also mentioned, the documentation of the new stat would be needed.
> >  
> >  
> >  diff --git a/include/linux/memcontrol.h b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
> >  index b6c82c8f73e1..83d1328f81d1 100644
> >  --- a/include/linux/memcontrol.h
> >  +++ b/include/linux/memcontrol.h
> >  @@ -39,6 +39,7 @@ enum memcg_stat_item {
> >  MEMCG_KMEM,
> >  MEMCG_ZSWAP_B,
> >  MEMCG_ZSWAPPED,
> >  + MEMCG_ZSWAP_RAW,
> >  MEMCG_NR_STAT,
> >  };
> >  
> >  diff --git a/include/linux/zswap.h b/include/linux/zswap.h
> >  index 30c193a1207e..94f84b154b71 100644
> >  --- a/include/linux/zswap.h
> >  +++ b/include/linux/zswap.h
> >  @@ -7,6 +7,15 @@
> >  
> >  struct lruvec;
> >  
> >  +/*
> >  + * Check if a zswap entry is stored in raw (uncompressed) form.
> >  + * This happens when compression doesn't reduce the size.
> >  + */
> >  +static inline bool zswap_is_raw(size_t size)
> >  +{
> >  + return size == PAGE_SIZE;
> >  +}
> >  +
> >  
> >  No strong opinion, but I'm not really sure if the helper is needed, because it
> >  feels quite simple logic:
> >  
> >  "If an object is compressed and the size is same to the original one, the
> >  object is incompressible."
> >  
> >  I also feel the function name bit odd, given the type of the parameter. Based
> >  on the function name and the comment, I'd expect it to receive a zswap_entry
> >  object. I understand it is better to receive a size_t, to be called from
> >  obj_cgroup_[un]charge_zswap(), though. Even in the case, I think the name can
> >  be better (e.g., zswap_compression_failed() or zswap_was_incompressible() ?),
> >  or at least the coment can be more kindly explain the fact that the parameter
> >  is the size of object after the compression attempt.
> >  
> >  I vote to drop the helper.
> > 
> The reason I introduced the helper is that the incompressible check now lives in two places:
> 
> In zswap.c - for the global zswap_stored_incompressible_pages counter
> In memcontrol.c - for the per-memcg MEMCG_ZSWAP_INCOMP stat
> 
> By extracting a shared helper, both modules use the same logic, which helps with maintainability.
> 
> That said, I'm fine with dropping the helper if preferred. I can add a comment in memcontrol.c
> explaining the logic. My only concern is that if the incompressible detection logic in zswap
> ever changes, someone might forget to update the memcg accounting accordingly.
> 
> But perhaps that's an unlikely scenario.

Well, a selftest would be the right way to detect such a problem imo. Even if we need to have a customer definition for incompressible later, it should remain in zswap and we should pass it into memcg code.

For now, I think let's keep open-coding the PAGE_SIZE check.

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