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Message-ID: <20260210232553.GR3729-mkhalfella@purestorage.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2026 15:25:53 -0800
From: Mohamed Khalfella <mkhalfella@...estorage.com>
To: James Smart <jsmart833426@...il.com>
Cc: Justin Tee <justin.tee@...adcom.com>,
	Naresh Gottumukkala <nareshgottumukkala83@...il.com>,
	Paul Ely <paul.ely@...adcom.com>,
	Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@...dia.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, Keith Busch <kbusch@...nel.org>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>,
	Aaron Dailey <adailey@...estorage.com>,
	Randy Jennings <randyj@...estorage.com>,
	Dhaval Giani <dgiani@...estorage.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@...e.de>, linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/14] nvme: Implement cross-controller reset recovery

On Tue 2026-02-10 14:49:15 -0800, James Smart wrote:
> On 2/10/2026 2:27 PM, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> > On Tue 2026-02-10 14:09:27 -0800, James Smart wrote:
> >> On 1/30/2026 2:34 PM, Mohamed Khalfella wrote:
> >> ...
> >>> +unsigned long nvme_fence_ctrl(struct nvme_ctrl *ictrl)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	unsigned long deadline, now, timeout;
> >>> +	struct nvme_ctrl *sctrl;
> >>> +	u32 min_cntlid = 0;
> >>> +	int ret;
> >>> +
> >>> +	timeout = nvme_fence_timeout_ms(ictrl);
> >>> +	dev_info(ictrl->device, "attempting CCR, timeout %lums\n", timeout);
> >>> +
> >>> +	now = jiffies;
> >>> +	deadline = now + msecs_to_jiffies(timeout);
> >>> +	while (time_before(now, deadline)) {
> >>
> >> Q: don't we have something to identify the controller's subsystem
> >> supports CCR before we starting selecting controllers and sending CCR ?
> >>
> >> I would think on older devices that don't support it we should be
> >> skipping this loop.   The loop could delay the Time-Based delay without
> >> any CCR.
> > 
> > I do not think we have something that identifies CCR support at
> > subsystem level. The spec defines CCRL at the controller level. The loop
> > should not that bad. nvme_find_ctrl_ccr() should return NULL if CCR is
> > not supported and nvme_fence_ctrl() will return immediately.
> > 
> >>
> >> -- james
> >>
> 
> I would think CCRL on the failed controller would be enough to assume 
> the subsystem supports it.

ictrl->ccr_limit is a good indication that subsystem supports CCR. I do
not think it is enough though. I say that for two reasons:

- May be this controller does not support CCR but others do on the same
  subsystem. There is nothing prevents subsystem from putting a cap of
  CCR at subsytem level.
- May be this controller supports CCR command but not now because all
  CCR slots are used now. This can happen in the case of cascading
  failure.

> 
> I'm not worried about the coding on the host is so bad. It's more the 
> multiple paths that must have cmds sent to them and getting error 
> responses for unknown cmds (should be responded to ok, but you never 
> know) as well as creating conditions for other errors where there will 
> be no return for it - e.g. other paths losing connectivity while the ccr 
> outstanding, etc. yes, they all have to work, but why bother adding 
> these flows to an old controller that would never do CCR ?

If nvme_find_ctrl_ccr() returns a source controller to use then we know
the controller supports CCR and does have an available slot to process
this CCR request. I do not see how this code will send CCR request to an
old controller that does not know about CCR command.

I am not fully opposed against using ictrl->ccr_limit to return early. I
do not see the need for it. If you feel strongly about it I can update
nvme_fence_ctrl() to do so.


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