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Date:	Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:53:00 -0800
From:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...l.org>
To:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>
Cc:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] convert hh_lock to seqlock

On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:27:00 +0100
Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com> wrote:

> Stephen Hemminger a écrit :
> > On Thu, 07 Dec 2006 21:23:07 +0100
> > Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Stephen Hemminger a écrit :
> >>> The hard header cache is in the main output path, so using
> >>> seqlock instead of reader/writer lock should reduce overhead.
> >>>
> >> Nice work Stephen, I am very interested.
> >>
> >> Did you benchmarked it ?
> >>
> >> I ask because I think hh_refcnt frequent changes may defeat the gain you want 
> >> (ie avoiding cache line ping pongs between cpus). seqlock are definitly better 
> >> than rwlock, but if we really keep cache lines shared.
> >>
> >> So I would suggest reordering fields of hh_cache and adding one 
> >> ____cacheline_aligned_in_smp to keep hh_refcnt in another cache line.
> >>
> >> (hh_len, hh_lock and hh_data should be placed on a 'mostly read' cache line)
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >> Eric
> > 
> > It doesn't make any visible performance difference for real networks; 
> > copies and device issues are much larger.
> 
> Hum, so 'my' machines must be unreal :)
> 
> > 
> > The hh_refcnt is used only when creating destroying neighbor entries,
> > so except under DoS attack it doesn't make a lot of difference.
> > The hh_lock is used on each packet sent.
> 
> Some machines create/delete 10.000 entries per second in rt_cache.
> I believe they are real. DoS ? you tell it, some people wont agree.


That could be fixed by doing RCU, I did some of that previously, but it
seemed better to hit the worst case first.  Even Robert doesn't see 10,000
rt cache entries per second.
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