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Date:	Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:47:34 -0800 (PST)
From:	David Miller <>
Subject: Re: [patch 3/3] tcp: remove experimental variants from default list

From: Stephen Hemminger <>
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2007 12:37:13 -0800

> My patches weren't reactionary. Going to pure old Reno is reactionary.
> It was more looking at the state of the code on the flight back
> and cleaning house. Others were/are reactionary. 


The only patch I have a real problem with is the DEFAULT_*
removals, the choices are frankly arbitrary.

Vegas is buggy, that's nice, why don't we simply fix the
bugs in our implementation?

Westwood is very conservative, frankly, and I therefore see
no reason it cannot be offered as a default either.

HTCP doesn't do anything earth shattering either.

I think the whole suite of algorithms in that list are

And even re-reading your patch, you're messing with the
DEFAULT_* setting for the case where the user selected

I think TCP_CONG_ADVANCED implies an intention by the user,
and if he wants to choose one of those listed as a default
why should we stop them?

The distributions take the default we recommend, and that's
all that matters for wide deployment.

> I push the problem back in their court: "Why do you not have a process
> that causes consensus?" IETF has done nothing to create any incentive
> for long term cooperation.

Yep, this is a good point.

> Do I need to dig out the "Why Reno sucks" graphs?

Hehe :-)
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