netdev - Re: /proc/sys/net/ipv[46]/conf/ issue unsolved

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Message-ID: <45D214E4.9020608@hp.com>
Date:	Tue, 13 Feb 2007 14:43:32 -0500
From:	Vlad Yasevich <vladislav.yasevich@...com>
To:	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>
Cc:	Hasso Tepper <hasso@...pak.ee>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: /proc/sys/net/ipv[46]/conf/ issue unsolved

Neil Horman wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 03:29:04PM +0200, Hasso Tepper wrote:
>> There is long standing issue in kernel which makes using /etc/sysctl.conf
>> useless for boottime configuration of specific interface properties and
>> breaks probably any software relying on unconditional existence of the
>> conf trees like it was in previous kernels (I alone have written several
>> pieces of such software). It's broken AFAIK from 2.6.15. There has been
>> several notes about issue in the list, but issue haven't got any (at least
>> efficient) attention from developers.
>>
>> The current behaviour bites users in many ways and breaks several use cases.
>> I asked several times in the past "what I should do now?" question, but
>> got no clear answer.
>>
>> References:
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=115685059625467&w=2
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-netdev&m=115690828822486&w=2
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=169809
>>
>> Is there any chance this will be fixed or at least clear position is
>> taken by developers? Breaking userspace applications is declared nonono
>> several times in the past ... I'm not even against breaking it if there
>> is _very_ good reason to do it. Ok, but I want to know how userspace is
>> meant to behave now. I can't continue using crappy workarounds.
>>
> Can't this simply be fixed by adding a custom udev rule?  Correct me if I'm
> wrong, but the only reason that interfaces come up automatically after their
> appropriate module is inserted is because most distos udev rules issue an ifup
> $DEVICE when they get a creation event for $DEVICE.  Why not add a custom rule
> in for net device creation events to set appropriate sysctl values before the
> ifup is issued.
> 

You can't.  The /proc/sys/conf/eth<x>/  structure appears when the 
interface is marked UP.  At this point, if protocol modules are already
loaded, your configuration parameters are already set.

I was going to ask.. How are you testing Optimistic DAD patch.  The
only way I could do it was to set /proc/sys/conf/default/ipv6  entry.

-vlad
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