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Message-ID: <460B6CD6.4050103@bull.net>
Date:	Thu, 29 Mar 2007 09:37:58 +0200
From:	Benjamin Thery <benjamin.thery@...l.net>
To:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
Cc:	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...e.fr>,
	Linux Containers <containers@...ts.osdl.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Dmitry Mishin <dim@...nvz.org>
Subject: Re: L2 network namespace benchmarking

Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...e.fr> writes:

[...]

>> * When do you expect to have the network namespace into mainline ?
> My current goal is to finish my rebase against 2.6.linus_lastest in
> the next couple of days after having figured out how to deal with sysfs.

Great news!
I also have some questions about this updated version:

- Have you integrated the bug fixes and cleanups(*) Daniel wrote for
your previous netns patchset (and the few glitches I reported too)?

(*) available in LXC8 patchset

- Do you already have a public git repository set up for the rebase?
- If it is private, any plan to make it public soon? (That would be great)

> I have been doing reviewing in more code then I know what to do with,
> and fighting some very strange bugs during the stabilization window.
> Which has kept me from doing additional development.  Plus I have
> had a cold.

I hope you're getting better... and you'll be able to provide us the
updated patchset very soon :)

[...]

> If I read the results right it took a 32bit machine from AMD with
> a gigabit interface before you could measure a throughput difference.
> That isn't shabby for a non-optimized code path.

Indeed the throughput difference is not significant.
This is very good to see that it stays constant when using the container.
What I'm more worried about is the CPU load increase. But it seems
we've identified some of the culprits.

This afternoon I had a look at why the bridge setup isn't better than
the route setup (section 2.3 and 2.4 of Daniel's report).

In the bridge case, we encounter the same problems as the routes case.
  The oprofile profile is the same: the most demanding routines are
pskb_expand_head and csum_partial_copy_generic.
pskb_expand_head() is also called by skb_cow(), but this time
skb_cow() is called by netfilter's nf_bridge_copy_header().

We can avoid this copy by removing option CONFIG_BRIDGE_NETFILTER.
This copy is made even if netfilter is not used on the host.
Maybe some optimizations can be made in netfilter's code to prevent this.


Regards,
Benjamin

-- 
B e n j a m i n   T h e r y  - BULL/DT/Open Software R&D

    http://www.bull.com

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