netdev - Re: [patch 7/9] lguest: the net driver

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Message-Id: <1178711725.7286.82.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Wed, 09 May 2007 21:55:25 +1000
From:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
To:	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
Cc:	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	virtualization@...ts.osdl.org, ak@...e.de, jeff@...zik.org,
	jmorris@...ei.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 7/9] lguest: the net driver

On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 20:12 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> akpm@...ux-foundation.org wrote:
> >
> > +       if (desc->features & LGUEST_NET_F_NOCSUM)
> > +               dev->features |= NETIF_F_NO_CSUM;
> 
> Any reason why you're using NO_CSUM here instead of HW_CSUM?
> Practically there is no difference but NO_CSUM could be treated
> differently in future and I'm not sure whether such changes would
> be desirable in this driver (i.e., not even generating a partial
> checksum).

Hi Herbert,

	NO_CSUM because it really doesn't need a checksum.  The
LGUEST_NET_F_NOCSUM is only set for local inter-guest networking.  If
some guest were to route the packets outside the machine, this would be
an issue, though ("don't do that").

> Also, there doesn't seem to be any passing of metadata to the
> backend which means that neither NO_CSUM/HW_CSUM can work if
> somebody needs to look at the checksum field.  You could use
> IP_CSUM if you do the same hack on the backend that Xen does.
> Otherwise you'll have to make do with no checksum offload at all.

Yeah, definitely good future work.  This is far simpler: external-facing
networks don't get marked with the LGUEST_NET_F_NOCSUM but set.

KVM is going to have a paravirt network driver too: it'd be nice to
share code here.

> I think you'd also need a change_mtu function if the SG feature
> is going to be of some use since the default Ethernet one limits
> the MTU to 1500.

Indeed, that would be a new feature, and is certainly a consideration
for more efficient inter-guest networking.  However, I consider that
somewhat cheating: it's nice to know that 1500 doesn't suck too hard.

Remember, "Features kill puppies!" 8)

Thanks,
Rusty.

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