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Date:	Tue, 29 May 2007 16:45:42 -0700
From:	Stephen Hemminger <>
To:	"Michael Chan" <>
Cc:	"Herbert Xu" <>,
	"netdev" <>
Subject: Re: Definition and usage of NETIF_F_HW_SUM?

On Tue, 29 May 2007 17:10:52 -0700
"Michael Chan" <> wrote:

> On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 07:36 +1000, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > 
> > I just checked e1000 and it's correct as it does use the csum_offset
> > when doing TX offload.  However, you're definitely right that bnx2
> > seems to be broken.
> > 
> > > A few devices take a offset, starting point, and insertion point. This looks like
> > > the correct model. But no upper layer protocols other than IPV4/IPV6 can do checksum
> > > offload at present, so it seems moot.
> > 
> > I could easily whip up a patch to get GRE to use it for a start :)
> > 
> > > IMHO the correct solution would be to get rid if NETIF_F_HW_SUM and make a new flag
> > > NETIF_F_IPV6_SUM. Devices that can checksum both could do NETIF_F_IPV4_SUM|NETI_F_IPV6_SUM.
> > 
> > We should definitely keep NETIF_F_HW_SUM for sane hardware such as the
> > e1000.  Unfortunately we may just have to invent IPV6_SUM for the broken
> > ones.
> > 
> > Ccing Michael to see if the bnx2 chip can actually do offset-based
> > checksum offload.
> > 
> bnx2 and tg3 cannot do offset-based checksumming because the hardware
> doesn't have room in the buffer descriptors to specify the offsets.  So
> regrettably, the NETIF_F_HW_SUM flag has been misused in these drivers.
> A new NETIF_F_IPV6_SUM flag will be very useful for us.

Look furthur many drivers are just plain broken and use F_HW_SUM
and can't even do IPV6 properly.  I'll fix

The worst code award goes to: qla3xxx.c
which is broken on IPV6 and goes to trouble of computing all the
offsets and they are already there in skb...

Stephen Hemminger <>
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