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Date:	Thu, 07 Jun 2007 20:04:23 +0400
From:	Pavel Emelianov <xemul@...nvz.org>
To:	Ben Greear <greearb@...delatech.com>
CC:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Patrick McHardy <kaber@...sh.net>,
	Daniel Lezcano <dlezcano@...ibm.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Kirill Korotaev <dev@...nvz.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@...ts.osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Virtual ethernet tunnel (v.2)

Ben Greear wrote:
> Pavel Emelianov wrote:
>> Ben Greear wrote:
>>  
>>> Pavel Emelianov wrote:
>>>    
>>>> Veth stands for Virtual ETHernet. It is a simple tunnel driver
>>>> that works at the link layer and looks like a pair of ethernet
>>>> devices interconnected with each other.
>>>>         
>>> As Dave mentioned, there is already a driver known as 'veth'.  Maybe
>>> borrow
>>> the etun name as well?
>>>     
>>
>> We have already seen that this driver uses ethXXX names for
>> its devices and Dave agreed with veth one. Moreover Alexey
>> Kuznetsov said that he would prefer the name veth for etun.
>>   
> Ok, fine by me.  I started reading mail from the wrong direction this
> morning :)
>>  
>>> I would also like some way to identify veth from other device types,
>>> preferably
>>> something like a value in sysfs.   However, that should not hold up
>>>     
>>
>> We can do this with ethtool. It can get and print the driver name of
>> the device.
>>   
> I think I'd like something in sysfs that we could query for any
> interface.  Possible return
> strings could be:
> VLAN
> VETH
> ETH
> PPP
> BRIDGE
> AP /* wifi access point interface */
> STA /* wifi station */
> ....
> 
> I will cook up a patch for consideration after veth goes in.

OK.

>>> I think you need at least the option to zero out the time-stamp,
>>> otherwise it will
>>> not be re-calculated when received on the peer, and it potentially spent
>>> significant
>>> time since it was last calculated (think netem delay or similar).
>>>
>>> +        /* Zero out the time-stamp so that receiving code is forced
>>> +         * to recalculate it.
>>> +         */
>>> +        skb->tstamp.off_sec = 0;
>>> +        skb->tstamp.off_usec = 0;
>>>
>>>    
>>>> +
>>>> +    rcv_priv = netdev_priv(rcv);
>>>> +    skb->pkt_type = PACKET_HOST;
>>>> +    skb->protocol = eth_type_trans(skb, rcv);
>>>> +    if (dev->features & NETIF_F_NO_CSUM)
>>>> +        skb->ip_summed = rcv_priv->ip_summed;
>>>> +
>>>> +    dst_release(skb->dst);
>>>> +    skb->dst = NULL;
>>>> +    secpath_reset(skb);
>>>> +    nf_reset(skb);
>>>> +    skb->mark = 0;
>>>> +
>>>> +    length = skb->len;
>>>>         
>>> This should be done before you do the eth_type_trans, as that pulls the
>>> header and your
>>> byte counters will be off.
>>>     
>>
>> This will be ETH_HLEN larger, do you mean this? I think this is
>> normal as this device tries to look like an "iron" ethernet card :)
>>   
> For device counters, it should count the number of bytes received,
> including all headers,
> but excluding the ethernet FCS.   If an 'iron' card did differently, I'd
> consider it a bug.

Hmm... The loopback must be doing bad things then. It first calls
eth_type_trans and then accounts for the new skb->len.

> Thanks,
> Ben
> 

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