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Date:	Wed, 18 Jul 2007 23:09:03 +0200
From:	Adrian Bunk <>
To:	"Robert P. J. Day" <>
Cc:	Jeff Garzik <>,
	Randy Dunlap <>,
	Gabriel C <>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net/, drivers/net/ , missing EXPERIMENTAL in menus

On Wed, Jul 18, 2007 at 04:51:33PM -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > Randy Dunlap wrote:
> > > On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 16:23:09 -0400 (EDT) Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > > > there's no point adding all that redundant content when it can all be
> > > > done automatically.
> > >
> > > I like it.  Are there any kconfig patches to support this plan?
> >
> > Speaking specifically to adding 'EXPERIMENTAL', I distinctly
> > remember at some point in the past the config system was smart
> > enough to print " (EXPERIMENTAL)" if that entry depended on
> >
> > We should head in that direction.
> there's one point i want to re-iterate.  i'd prefer to see
> EXPERIMENTAL stop being a dependency, as in:
>   depends on SNAFU && FUBAR && EXPERIMENTAL
> "EXPERIMENTAL" is not a dependency in the true sense of the word -- it
> is more of an attribute, and i think it would far more sense to see
> entries like:
>   depends on SNAFU && FUBAR
>   maturity EXPERIMENTAL

Plus some special case in the kconfig code that you can somewhere select 
the maturity levels you want to use (currently it's a normal option 
kconfig doesn't have to know anything about).

Remind me, would there be any big advantage after such a change besides
being able to automatically print " (EXPERIMENTAL)" at the end of 
the prompt?

> sure, it's more work, but i think the cost is worth it in terms of
> flexibility (particularly if *i'm* not the one doing the work. :-)

If you are not doing it, noone might do it.
And discusing improvements noone will implement is somehow pointless...

> rday



       "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out
        of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days.
       "Only a promise," Lao Er said.
                                       Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed

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