netdev - Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

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Message-ID: <20070816103547.GA2927@gondor.apana.org.au>
Date:	Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:35:47 +0800
From:	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
To:	Stefan Richter <stefanr@...6.in-berlin.de>
Cc:	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Satyam Sharma <satyam@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <clameter@....com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Chris Snook <csnook@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/24] make atomic_read() behave consistently across all architectures

On Thu, Aug 16, 2007 at 11:54:44AM +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
> 
> One example was discussed here earlier:  The for (;;) loop in
> nodemgr_host_thread.  There an msleep_interruptible implicitly acted as
> barrier (at the moment because it's in a different translation unit; if
> it were the same, then because it hopefully has own barriers).  So that
> happens to work, although such an implicit barrier is bad style:  Better
> enforce the desired behaviour (== guaranteed load operation) *explicitly*.

Hmm, it's not bad style at all.  Let's assume that everything
is in the same scope.  Such a loop must either call a function
that busy-waits, which should always have a cpu_relax or
something equivalent, or it'll call a function that schedules
away which immediately invalidates any values the compiler might
have cached for the atomic_read.

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