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Date:	Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:39:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	rick.jones2@...com
Cc:	ebiederm@...ssion.com, bunk@...nel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] always export sysctl_{r,w}mem_max

From: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@...com>
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:31:47 -0700

> Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> > Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org> writes:
> > 
> > 
> >>This patch fixes the following build error with CONFIG_SYSCTL=n:
> >>
> >><--  snip  -->
> >>
> >>...
> >>ERROR: "sysctl_rmem_max" [fs/dlm/dlm.ko] undefined!
> >>ERROR: "sysctl_wmem_max" [drivers/net/rrunner.ko] undefined!
> >>ERROR: "sysctl_rmem_max" [drivers/net/rrunner.ko] undefined!
> >>make[2]: *** [__modpost] Error 1
> > 
> > 
> > I was going to ask if allowing drivers to increase rmem_max
> > is something that we want to do.  Apparently the road runner
> > driver has been doing this since the 2.6.12-rc1 when the
> > git repository starts so this probably isn't a latent bug.
> 
> Although it does rather sound like a driver writer yanking the rope from the 
> hand's of the sysadmin and hanging him with it rather than letting the sysadmin 
> do it himself.  I've seen other drivers' README's suggesting larger mem's but 
> not their sources doing it.

I really don't think what the roadrunner driver is doing is
correct at all.

I also think what DLM is doing is wrong too.

If DLM really wants minimum, it can use SO_SNDBUFFORCE and
SO_RCVBUFFORCE socket options and use whatever limits it
likes.

But even this is questionable.

I'll put in Adrian's patch to fix the build as a first
priority, but in the long term this cruft has gotta go.
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