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Date:	Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:18:27 +0100
From:	Jean Delvare <>
To:	David Miller <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: Saner thash_entries default with much memory

Hi David,

Le mardi 30 octobre 2007, David Miller a écrit :
> From: Andi Kleen <>
> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:34:17 +0200
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 05:21:31PM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> > > I propose 2 millions of entries as the arbitrary high limit. This
> > 
> > It's probably still far too large.
> I agree.  Perhaps a better number is something on the order of
> (512 * 1024) so I think I'll check in a variant of Jean's patch
> with just the limit decreased like that.

That's very fine with me. I originally proposed an admittedly high
limit value to increase the chance to see it accepted. I am not
familiar enough with networking to know what a more reasonable
limit would be, so I'm leaving it to the experts.

> Using just some back of the envelope calculations, on UP 64-bit
> systems each socket uses about 2424 bytes minimum of memory (this is
> the sum of tcp_sock, inode, dentry, socket, and file on sparc64 UP).
> This is an underestimate because it does not even consider things like
> allocator overhead.
> Next, machines that service that many sockets typically have them
> mostly with full transmit queues talking to a very slow receiver at
> the other end.  So let's estimate that on average each socket consumes
> about 64K of retransmit queue data.
> I think this is an extremely conservative estimate beause it doesn't
> even consider overhead coming from struct sk_buff and related state.
> So for (512 * 1024) of established sockets we consume roughly 35GB of
> memory, this is '((2424 + (64 * 1024)) * (512 * 1024))'.
> So to me (512 * 1024) is a very reasonable limit and (with lockdep
> and spinlock debugging disabled) this makes the EHASH table consume
> 8MB on UP 64-bit and ~12MB on SMP 64-bit systems.

OK, let's go with (512 * 1024) then. Want me to send an updated patch?

Jean Delvare
Suse L3
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