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Date:	Mon, 14 Apr 2008 10:35:21 -0700
From:	Roman Shaposhnik <rvs@....com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, viro@...IV.linux.org.uk, w@....eu,
	david@...g.hm, sclark46@...thlink.net, johnpol@....mipt.ru,
	rjw@...k.pl, tilman@...p.cc, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, lkml@....ca,
	jesper.juhl@...il.com, yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org, jeff@...zik.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, git@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection

On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 03:41 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> I'm getting more and more sensitive to issues on this level over time,
> because I realize that the fundamental issue in all human group issues
> is getting people to "want" to do things.  And "force", in any form,
> tends to be incompatible with "want".  And in particular, people will
> often even shun things they "want" when it is "forced" to them.

Just wanted to add my 2c by mentioning my favorite example of 
"virtual Tom Sawyering" as far as a tedious review process goes:
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth_reward_check

Which is also quite cheap too -- AFAIK very few of those have ever
been cashed.

Thanks,
Roman.

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