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Date:	Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:01:55 -0700
From:	"Ray Lee" <ray-lk@...rabbit.org>
To:	"Al Viro" <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	"David Newall" <davidn@...idnewall.com>,
	"Jesper Juhl" <jesper.juhl@...il.com>, sverre@...belier.nl,
	git@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"James Morris" <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Willy Tarreau" <w@....eu>, david@...g.hm,
	"Stephen Clark" <sclark46@...thlink.net>,
	"Evgeniy Polyakov" <johnpol@....mipt.ru>,
	"Tilman Schmidt" <tilman@...p.cc>, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu,
	"Mark Lord" <lkml@....ca>, "David Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org, jeff@...zik.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reporting bugs and bisection

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 01:38:18PM -0700, Ray Lee wrote:
>  > >         And frankly, that's the only thing that matters anyway; I suspect
>  > >  I'd do rather well by proposed criteria, but you know what?  I don't give
>  > >  a flying f*ck through the rolling doughnut for self-appointed PHBs and
>  > >  their idea of performance reviews.
>  >
>  > (Geez, conflate the issue much?) No one is saying you should. But
>  > also, I haven't seen anyone saying it'd be used for performance
>  > reviews other than you.
>
>
> || If there are individuals at whom a finger needs to be pointed, this
>  || system will highlight them, and fingers will (and should) be pointed.
>  || Contributors of poor-quality code need to be weeded-out.
>
>  in this thread (From: David Newall).

Ah, I failed reading comprehension, yet again. Well, sounds like you
have a beef to take up with David, then. That's still not an argument
against trying to gather statistics and to see if they're worth
anything.

>  > <shrug> Shame and Guilt, two major motivators of human behavior, it's
>  > true. But, one last time, *you're* the one saying the stats would be
>  > used for finger pointing at people.
>
>  Not really.  Unless you are trying to imply that David is my sock puppet, that
>  is...

Momentarily amusing to think so, but no :-).
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