netdev - Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC

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Message-ID: <480E4FA1.5020508@garzik.org>
Date:	Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:50:41 -0400
From:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
To:	Paul Fulghum <paulkf@...rogate.com>
CC:	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@...waw.pl>,
	James Chapman <jchapman@...alix.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC

Paul Fulghum wrote:
> Krzysztof Halasa wrote:
>> It's complex, I think kernel interface to generic HDLC would mean more
>> code than PPP implementation required for fixed lines.
>> Additional requirement - userspace daemon with additional plugin - may
>> not be the best thing for fixed lines either.
>>
>> That would break backward compatibility, too.
> 
> I maintain both pppd and generic HDLC PPP
> interfaces for the synclink drivers.
> I would like to have a single PPP implementation,
> but what Krzysztof writes about compatibility and complexity
> (both in coding and user configuration) is a real issue.
> 
> Many customers who choose to use generic HDLC PPP are *dead*
> set against the added complexity and (user space)
> components of using pppd even though it has more features.
> I say that having tried to persuade such users to use pppd.
> The response is usually "support the simpler generic
> HDLC PPP way of doing things or we will go elsewhere".
> Others require the extra features of pppd.
> 
> I understand customer desires are not always rational
> or a primary concern when making these architectural
> decisions, but I know forcing the extra complexity and
> components of pppd on generic HDLC users will cause a
> lot of anger and defections.

The fact that Krzysztof's solution was _small_ and _clean_ and easily 
maintainable was the reason I merged it [into my tree].

IMO sometimes "one size fits all" is not the best solution.

	Jeff



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