netdev - Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC

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Message-ID: <480E7A59.6050802@microgate.com>
Date:	Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:52:57 -0500
From:	Paul Fulghum <paulkf@...rogate.com>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
CC:	khc@...waw.pl, jchapman@...alix.com, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, jeff@...zik.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Re: WAN: new PPP code for generic HDLC

David Miller wrote:
 > Users say this to strong-hand developers, it's not something you
 > should ever take very seriously.  And even if Linux may simply not be
 > for them, well that's fine too, and implementing something as obscure
 > as HDLC PPP one way or the other is not going to change that.

Certainly not a big deal for Linux, but more
significant for vendors of HDLC hardware :-)

David Miller wrote:
 > I would have been more than happy if syncppp was retained and fixed
 > properly, instead of being abandoned and duplicated in one fell swoop.

I'd be happy with that also. I was responding to the
suggestion of merging generic HDLC PPP with the pppd implementation.
It's been suggested before, but doing so looks messy.

James Chapman wrote:
 > Paul Fulghum wrote:
 >> Many customers who choose to use generic HDLC PPP are *dead*
 >> set against the added complexity and (user space)
 >> components of using pppd even though it has more features.
 >
 > Are there technical reasons or is the complexity just a lack of
 > familiarity?

 From what I can tell it was an existing investment in scripts,
training, tools, naming conventions, etc. Even when
provided with new tools and scripts that do the same thing (as
far as I could tell) the response was suprisingly vehement against
change.

--
Paul

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