netdev - Re: [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK

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Message-ID: <20080513175055.GI15306@ghostprotocols.net>
Date:	Tue, 13 May 2008 14:50:55 -0300
From:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
To:	Rémi Denis-Courmont <rdenis@...phalempin.com>
Cc:	Gerrit Renker <gerrit@....abdn.ac.uk>,
	David Stevens <dlstevens@...ibm.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, dccp@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, Ulrich Drepper <drepper@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [DCCP]: Deprecate SOCK_DCCP in favour of SOCK_DGRAM

Em Tue, May 13, 2008 at 08:37:38PM +0300, Rémi Denis-Courmont escreveu:
> Le Tuesday 13 May 2008 20:03:25 Gerrit Renker, vous avez écrit :
> > Using work-arounds is brittle and frustrating when the API behaviour
> > suddenly changes. My experience of using such a wrapper was:
> >
> >  * it passed UDP(-Lite), TCP through without changing the socket type;
> >  * when passed DCCP, it set the socket type to 0, to avoid `ai_socktype
> >    not supported' getaddrinfo error;
> 
> >  * this used to work fine until about January, when something in the
> >    lookup machinery for dual-stack hosts changed:
> >    - before, AF_UNSPEC + ai_socktype=0 put IPv6 first into the result list,
> >    - now the the result order is reversed (IPv4 sockets are returned first)
> 
> You're probably using a recent libc that applies RFC3484 _properly_. If you 
> still want IPv6 first, no matter what addresses the host has, I think the 
> AI_PASSIVE flag should do the trick. Then again, working around RFC3484 
> policy is _not_ a good idea.
> 
> As far as I am concerned, for DCCP, I (meaning VLC) currently use SOCK_STREAM, 
> and overrides the socktype and protocol fields in the socket() call 
> manually - so I don't get a TCP socjet.
> 
> In any case, getaddrinfo() should be patched to
> 1/ accept ai_socktype == SOCK_DCCP and ai_protocol == IPPROTO_DCCP,
> 2/ accept ai_socktype == SOCK_DCCP and ai_protocol == 0,
>    and set ai_protocol to IPPROTO_DCCP in the results,
> 3/ (perhaps?) accept ai_protocol == IPPROTO_DCCP and ai_socktype == 0,
>    and set ai_socktype to SOCK_DCCP in the results.
> 
> Similarly:
> 1/ accept ai_socktype == SOCK_DGRAM and ai_protocol == IPPROTO_UDPLITE,
> 2/ (intentionally omitted - keep normal UDP non-Lite behavior)
> 3/ (perhaps?) accept ai_protocol == IPPROTO_UDPLITE and ai_socktype == 0,
>    and set ai_socktype to SOCK_DGRAM in the results.
> 
> Voilà. Best to check this with Ulrich Drepper, no?

Cest bon! Agreed. Ulrich?

- Arnaldo
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