netdev - Re: [PATCH 00/26] IPVS: Add first IPv6 support to IPVS.

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Message-ID: <f4845fc0806130717v2e892707tee1e401b39dbab81@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 13 Jun 2008 16:17:41 +0200
From:	"Julius Volz" <juliusv@...gle.com>
To:	"Simon Horman" <horms@...ge.net.au>
Cc:	"Patrick McHardy" <kaber@...sh.net>,
	"Vince Busam" <vbusam@...gle.com>,
	"Ben Greear" <greearb@...delatech.com>, lvs-devel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/26] IPVS: Add first IPv6 support to IPVS.

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 8:26 AM, Simon Horman <horms@...ge.net.au> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:33:27PM +0200, Julius Volz wrote:
>> Ok, my first impression is that genetlink is aimed at being simple to
>> use (and has a nice howto).
>>
>> So we'll work on a genetlink interface and some of the other v6 patch
>> issues and then post again in a while. Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> Horms: ping if you're interested or have some good ideas for this.
>
> Julius: pong
>
> The main two problems that I see in the existing interface are
> a) lack of extendibility (which is why we are here) and;
> b) non-idempotent actions, especially adding and deleting
>   real servers, which mean that user-space programs that
>   manipulate ipvsadm have have extra (racy) logic.
>   (ok, perhaps that is more a pet peeve than a problem).

Ok, so we probably won't focus on b) as a priority right now, unless
it happens as a side-effect.

> I don't really have any concrete ideas about what a better
> interface would look like. But I am more than happy to hash our ideas.

Good! At the moment I'm looking at various netlink docs and figuring
out how things generally work. I think netlink probably adds a lot of
complexity over the previous sockopt interface, but I hope it's worth
it.

As for compatibility and extensibility, how is that best achieved with
netlink? I've seen some examples copy whole C structs into netlink
datagrams, but that is obviously what we don't want anymore. So the
way to go seems to be to transfer each struct field as a separate
netlink attribute, right?

Julius

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