netdev - Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3

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Message-ID: <20080703232554.7271d645@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Date:	Thu, 3 Jul 2008 23:25:54 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>
Cc:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
	Theodore Tso <tytso@....edu>, Hugh Dickins <hugh@...itas.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	mchan@...adcom.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin"

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> Further, all current kernel build and test etc. scripts are unaware of 
> 'make firmware_install', and it is unfair to everybody to force a 
> flag-day build process change on people, just to keep their drivers in 
> the same working state today as it was yesterday.

IMHO we want firmware built in as the default for the moment. If the
firmware model makes sense (as I think it does) then the distributions
will catch up, turn it on and sort out the default behaviour - exactly as
they did all those years ago with modules, more recently with "use an
initrd" and so on.

> as "making no sense".  All these are real world examples where users 
> FOLLOWING THEIR NORMAL, PROSCRIBED KERNEL PROCESSES will produce 

I hope you mean "prescribed" ;)

> The only valid assumption here is to assume that the user is /unaware/ 
> of these new steps they must take in order to continue to have a working 
> system.

To a large extent not the user but their distro - consider "make install"
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