netdev - Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3

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Message-ID: <20080708073637.32037c76@the-village.bc.nu>
Date:	Tue, 8 Jul 2008 07:36:37 +0100
From:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Cc:	jeff@...zik.org, dwmw2@...radead.org, andi@...stfloor.org,
	tytso@....edu, hugh@...itas.com, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com, mchan@...adcom.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [bug?] tg3: Failed to load firmware "tigon/tg3_tso.bin"

> That's pure bullox as far as I can see.  Why provide the means to
> do something nobody has had a need for in 6+ years?  Who needs
> to load different firmware for the tg3 driver?

Who needs modules, nobody needed it for years ... you are repeating
historically failed arguments still.

> Who needs that capability? Distribution vendors?  What for?
> In what case will they need to load different firmware from
> what the driver maintainer tested as a unit?

For some drivers yes. Maybe not tg3.

> And, btw, who has the right to enforce this new burdon upon driver
> maintainers when they have had a working and maintainable system for
> so long?

The module argument again - see my comment about the sound driver history.

> I can only see it being about separation, pure and simple.

Separation - of firmware that can be paged from code that cannot. Of
stuff that doesn't change from stuff that does. That happens to be good
engineering.

Alan
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