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Message-Id: <20080731.034338.146687281.davem@davemloft.net> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:43:38 -0700 (PDT) From: David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> To: dwmw2@...radead.org Cc: akpm@...ux-foundation.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, thomas.petazzoni@...e-electrons.com, shemminger@...tta.com, jeff@...zik.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, mpm@...enic.com Subject: Re: [patch 12/12] Configure out ethtool support From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org> Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:39:36 +0100 > We need to be moving towards a situation where people don't _need_ to > patch the hell out of their kernels to make Linux viable for embedded > devices. I'm not prepared just assume that 'they will always do so', and > I'm disappointed to hear Andrew say such a thing. It's simple economics, really. Until they see value in upstream submission, it's always going to be %100 invested in getting the current product out the door or the current fire put out. The odd I2C device hack of the day the do to one revision of their product is likely never to be submitted upstream. And these embedded folks have hundreds of things on that level that they sort out for each product, and often very little of it is reusable in the next product. They don't see the payback for upstreaming this stuff, and for a lot of cases neither do I. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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