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Date:	Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	dada1@...mosbay.com
Cc:	shemminger@...tta.com, andi@...stfloor.org, davej@...hat.com,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, j.w.r.degoede@....nl
Subject: Re: cat /proc/net/tcp takes 0.5 seconds on x86_64

From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:20:51 +0200

> But for route cache, it is probably doable since we added the
> rt_genid thing in commit 29e75252da20f3ab9e132c68c9aed156b87beae6
> ([IPV4] route cache: Introduce rt_genid for smooth cache
> invalidation)
>
> If we add a hash table for each "struct net"
> (net->ipv4.rt_hash_table), we then could do something sensible when
> an admin writes to /proc/sys/net/ipv4/route/hash_size or at
> rt_check_expire() time, if hash table is found to be full...

The synchronization and implementation is not a problem for
the route cache, I implemented this eons ago.

> 3) In rt_check_expire(), adds some metrics to trigger an expand of the
>   hash table in case we found too many entries in it.

This is the problem and why I didn't just commit the patch I had back
then.

We could not define a reasonable way to trigger hash table growth.

GC attempts to keep a resident set of entries in the cache, and these
heuristics are guided by the table size itself.  So if you grow the
table too aggressively this never has a chance to work.

You want to respond dynamically to traffic in a reasonable amount of
time, but you don't want to get tricked by bursts of RCU effects.

We never came up with an algorithm that addresses all of these
issues.
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