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Date:	Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:15:06 +0100
From:	Ben Hutchings <>
To:	xerces8 <>
Cc:	Linux Netdev <>,
	Linux Networking <>
Subject: Re: "Listenless" TCP over NAT?

xerces8 wrote:
> Hi!
> Recently someone mentioned on this (or maybe other...) list a seldom used
> technique of establishing a TCP connection without one host listening on a port,
> but but acting as "clients" and connecting to the peers port.
> My question: Can this be used to establish a TCP connection between two hosts that
> are both behind a (P)NAT router ?
> (the idea being: NAT router lets outgoing connections thru, and in this case both
> NAT router would  see an "outgoing" connection)
> If yes, this would simplify the life of many users :-)

It's a bit more complicated than that.  See


Ben Hutchings, Senior Software Engineer, Solarflare Communications
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