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Message-ID: <b98e548c0812040726w6ac94d66x8d9f2b1b4aaf7068@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Thu, 4 Dec 2008 16:26:30 +0100
From:	"Saverio Mascolo" <saverio.mascolo@...il.com>
To:	"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@...sinki.fi>
Cc:	Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: TCP default congestion control in linux should be newreno

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Ilpo Järvinen <ilpo.jarvinen@...sinki.fi> wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Saverio Mascolo wrote:
>
>> we have added plots of cwnd at
>>
>> http://c3lab.poliba.it/index.php/TCP_over_Hsdpa
>>
>> in the case of newreno, wetwood+, bic/cubic.
>
> You lack the most important detail, ie., the used kernel versions!

2.6

>And
> also information if some sysctls were tuned or not. This is especially
> important since you seem to claim that bic is the default which it hasn't
> been for years?!

bic is default since a couple of years, at my by knoweledge. btw now it is.

>
>> basically the goodput is similar with all variants  but with
>> significantly larger packet losses and timeouts with bic/cubic.
>
> I've never understood what exactly is wrong with the larger amount of
> packet losses if they happen before (or at the bottleneck), here they're
> just a consequence of having the larger window.

what matters is goodput. if protocols A and B provide same goodput the
better is the one with lowest retransmissions because retrans. waste
bandwidth


>
>> i am pretty sure that this would happen with any algos -including h-tcp-
>> that makes the probing more aggressive leaving the van jacobson linear
>> phase.
>
> Probably, but you seem to completely lack the analysis to find out why the
> rtos did actually happen, whether it was due to most of the window lost or
> perhaps spurious rtos?

using a more aggressive probing (more than linear) increases retransmissions.

sm
>
>
> --
>  i.
>



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