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Date:	Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:28:00 +1100
From:	Herbert Xu <>
To: (David Miller)
Subject: Re: IFF_RUNNING without carrier after reboot

David Miller <> wrote:
> The RUNNING state has no connection to link presence.
> It just means that the device has been brought up by a
> user configuration command like the ifconfig you ran.
> It really means nothing else.

Well RUNNING did use to indicate carrier state.  In fact I didn't
even know that it had changed until this email :)

This is the changeset which did it:

commit b00055aacdb172c05067612278ba27265fcd05ce
Author: Stefan Rompf <>
Date:   Mon Mar 20 17:09:11 2006 -0800

    [NET] core: add RFC2863 operstate

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