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Message-Id: <20090130.140346.159984249.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:	Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:03:46 -0800 (PST)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	w@....eu
Cc:	jarkao2@...il.com, zbr@...emap.net, herbert@...dor.apana.org.au,
	dada1@...mosbay.com, ben@...s.com, mingo@...e.hu,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	jens.axboe@...cle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] tcp: splice as many packets as possible at once

From: Willy Tarreau <w@....eu>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:59:20 +0100

> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 01:42:27PM -0800, David Miller wrote:
> > It's cheesy and the SLAB developers will likely barf at the
> > idea, but it would certainly work.
> 
> Maybe that would be enough as a definitive fix for a stable
> release, so that we can go on with deeper changes in newer
> versions ?

Such a check could have performance ramifications, I wouldn't
risk it and already I intend to push Jarek's page allocator
splice fix back to -stable eventually.

> > Back to real life, I think long term the thing to do is to just do the
> > cached page allocator thing we'll be doing after Jarek's socket page
> > patch is integrated, and for best performance the driver has to
> > receive it's data into pages, only explicitly pulling the ethernet
> > header into the linear area, like NIU does.
> 
> Are there NICs out there able to do that themselves or does the
> driver need to rely on complex hacks in order to achieve this ?

Any NIC, even the dumbest ones, can be made to receive into pages.
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