lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <20090310160040.GA93054@bts.sk>
Date:	Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:00:40 +0100
From:	Marian Ďurkovič <md@....sk>
To:	John Heffner <johnwheffner@...il.com>
Cc:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: TCP rx window autotuning harmful at LAN context

> > Yes, but that's actual bandwidth between sender and receiver, not
> > the hard BW limit of the receiver's NIC. My intention is just to introduce
> > some safety belt preventing autotuning to increase the rx window
> > into MB ranges when RTT is very low.
> 
> Nowhere in our proposal do you use NIC bandwidth.  What you proposed
> can be done easily at the sender.

Only if you *absolutely* trust the sender to do everything correctly.
That's never the case on global scale - some senders are buggy, some teribly
outdated, some incorrectly configured, some using different congestion
control scheme...

Again, autotuning in its present form removes all safety at the receiver
side and allows senders to easily bring LANs down. IMHO we need to fix
this before the problem spreads even more.

   Thanks & kind regards,

         M.
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ