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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0903151136310.3131@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:44:31 -0700 (PDT)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>
cc:	Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@...il.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@...nel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Kernel Testers List <kernel-testers@...r.kernel.org>,
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>
Subject: Re: 2.6.29-rc8: Reported regressions from 2.6.28



On Sun, 15 Mar 2009, Johannes Berg wrote:

> On Sun, 2009-03-15 at 11:06 +0800, Jeff Chua wrote:
> 
> > The commit below is causing problem with associating with the hidden AP as well.
> 
> > 71c11fb57b924c160297ccd9e1761db598d00ac2 is first bad commit
> > commit 71c11fb57b924c160297ccd9e1761db598d00ac2
> > Author: Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>
> > Date:   Tue Oct 28 18:29:48 2008 +0100
> > 
> >     b43/legacy: remove SSID code
> > 
> >     The SSID programmed into the device is used by the ucode only
> >     to reply to probe requests, a functionality we disable anyway
> >     because it doesn't fit with the mac80211/hostapd programming
> >     model. Therefore, it isn't useful to program the SSID into
> >     device.
> 
> That's not believable, sorry. I know exactly what the microcode uses the
> SSID here for, and it never uses it when we're in station mode.

Jeff - can you test the kernels before-and-after this commit (with _no_ 
other changes) and descibe the differences?

Johannes - "not believable" is simply not an argument. If Jeff can show a 
difference, then your disbelief is totally irrelevant, and clearly shows 
that you are basing your beliefs on incorrect assumptions (like some 
specific version of firmware that isn't the whole story).

		Linus
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