netdev - Re: [RFC] percpu: convert SNMP mibs to new infra

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Message-Id: <200904022216.24259.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Date:	Thu, 2 Apr 2009 22:16:23 +1030
From:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
To:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@...il.com>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Netdev List <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] percpu: convert SNMP mibs to new infra

On Thursday 02 April 2009 15:49:19 Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Rusty Russell a écrit :
> > eg. on S/390, atomic_inc is a win over the two-counter version.  On Sparc,
> > two-counter wins.  On x86, inc wins (obviously).
> > 
> > But efforts to create a single primitive have been problematic: maybe
> > open-coding it like this is the Right Thing.
> 
> I tried to find a generic CONFIG_ define that would annonce that an arche
> has a fast percpu_add() implementation. (faster than __raw_get_cpu_var,
> for example, when we already are in a preempt disabled section)

Nope, we don't have one.  It was supposed to work like this:
	DEFINE_PER_CPU(local_t, counter);

	cpu_local_inc(counter);

That would do incl in x86, local_t could even be a long[3] (one for hardirq,
one for softirq, one for user context).  But there were issues:

1) It didn't work on dynamic percpu allocs, which was much of the interesting
   use (Tejun is fixing this bit right now)
2) The x86 version wasn't optimized anyway,
3) Everyone did atomic_long_inc(), so the ftrace code assumed it would be nmi
   safe (tho atomic_t isn't nmi-safe on some archs anyway), so the long[3]
   method would break them,
4) The long[3] version was overkill for networking, which doesn't need hardirq
   so we'd want another variant of local_t plus all the ops,
5) Some people didn't want long: Christoph had a more generic but more complex
   version,
6) It's still not used anywhere in the tree (tho local_t is), so there's no
   reason to stick to the current semantics.

> For example, net/ipv4/route.c has :
> 
> static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct rt_cache_stat, rt_cache_stat);
> #define RT_CACHE_STAT_INC(field) \
>         (__raw_get_cpu_var(rt_cache_stat).field++)
> 
> We could use percpu_add(rt_cache_stat.field, 1) instead, only if percpu_add()
> is not the generic one.

Yep, but this one is different from the SNMP stats which needs softirq vs
user context safety.  This is where I start wondering how many interfaces
we're going to have...

Sorry to add more questions than answers :(
Rusty.
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