netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus

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Message-ID: <49D8BC87.8030401@codemonkey.ws>
Date:	Sun, 05 Apr 2009 09:13:27 -0500
From:	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>
To:	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>
CC:	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@...ell.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, agraf@...e.de, pmullaney@...ell.com,
	pmorreale@...ell.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org, kvm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] virtual-bus

Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Thursday 02 April 2009 02:40:29 Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> Rusty Russell wrote:
>>     
>>> As you point out, 350-450 is possible, which is still bad, and it's at least
>>> partially caused by the exit to userspace and two system calls.  If virtio_net
>>> had a backend in the kernel, we'd be able to compare numbers properly.
>>>       
>> I doubt the userspace exit is the problem.  On a modern system, it takes 
>> about 1us to do a light-weight exit and about 2us to do a heavy-weight 
>> exit.  A transition to userspace is only about ~150ns, the bulk of the 
>> additional heavy-weight exit cost is from vcpu_put() within KVM.
>>     
>
> Just to inject some facts, servicing a ping via tap (ie host->guest then
> guest->host response) takes 26 system calls from one qemu thread, 7 from
> another (see strace below). Judging by those futex calls, multiple context
> switches, too.
>   

N.B. we're not optimized for latency today.  With the right 
infrastructure in userspace, I'm confident we could get this down.

What we need is:

1) Lockless MMIO/PIO dispatch (there should be two IO registration 
interfaces, a new lockless one and the legacy one)
2) A virtio-net thread that's independent of the IO thread.

It would be interesting to count the number of syscalls required in the 
lguest path since that should be a lot closer to optimal.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

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