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Message-ID: <4A1A2AFA.8020605@cosmosbay.com>
Date:	Mon, 25 May 2009 07:22:02 +0200
From:	Eric Dumazet <dada1@...mosbay.com>
To:	Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@...et.ca>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
CC:	Denys Fedoryschenko <denys@...p.net.lb>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	damien.wyart@...e.fr
Subject: Re: regression: unregister_netdev() unusably slow

Benjamin LaHaise a écrit :
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 12:47:39AM +0200, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>> There is a strong dependancy against HZ
>> BTW, I am using TREE_RCU
> 
> I'm using CLASSIC_RCU.  The bisect just completed, and it points to RCU.  
> It makes some degree of sense since I'm testing on an otherwise idle 
> machine.  That said, where is fixing it going to make sense?  I'm not 
> opposed to having device unregister take a few timer ticks, but there 
> has to be some way of exposing parallelism to the system, and since the 
> synchronize_net() calls are done under rntl_lock(), none is possible at 
> present.  Hrm.

Thanks Ben, this bisection indeed confirms how nasty synchronize_rcu() is :)

Time to include Paul and lkml in the discussion, and find a better solution than 
one provided in February.

> 
> 		-ben
> 
> bf51935f3e988e0ed6f34b55593e5912f990750a is first bad commit
> commit bf51935f3e988e0ed6f34b55593e5912f990750a
> Author: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date:   Tue Feb 17 06:01:30 2009 -0800
> 
>     x86, rcu: fix strange load average and ksoftirqd behavior
>     
>     Damien Wyart reported high ksoftirqd CPU usage (20%) on an
>     otherwise idle system.
>     
>     The function-graph trace Damien provided:
> ...
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/process_32.c b/arch/x86/kernel/process_32.c
> 
> index a546f55..bd4da2a 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/process_32.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/process_32.c
> @@ -104,9 +104,6 @@ void cpu_idle(void)
>  			check_pgt_cache();
>  			rmb();
>  
> -			if (rcu_pending(cpu))
> -				rcu_check_callbacks(cpu, 0);
> -
>  			if (cpu_is_offline(cpu))
>  				play_dead();
>  
> 
> --

Paul, this commit makes net device unregister very slow (more than 100 ms
 if CONFIG_NO_HZ is set), while it used to be pretty fast in previous kernels.

Quoting Ben : 
" I just ran a few L2TP tests against 2.6.30-rc7, and it looks like network 
  device deletion has become unusably slow.  At least in 2.6.27.10, deleting 
  1000 network interfaces takes less than 2 seconds of real time.  The same 
  test run under 2.6.30-rc7 is taking hundreds of seconds to delete 1000 
  interfaces at a rate of about 5 per second.  The interfaces all share the 
  same local ip address, but each have a single route to a unique client 
  ip address."

Device unregister is a synchronize_rcu() abuser (three calls to dismantle
a vlan...) so delaying rcu callbacks can be pretty expensive for it.

I wonder if the real root of the problem was not discovered in the meantime,
by commit 64ca5ab913f1594ef316556e65f5eae63ff50cee
rcu: increment quiescent state counter in ksoftirqd()

Maybe this commit solved Damien Wyart problem as well, and we can revert
commit bf51935f3e988e0ed6f34b55593e5912f990750a ?

Thank you

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