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Message-Id: <20090703.200254.172991821.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:	Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:02:54 -0700 (PDT)
From:	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:	herbert@...dor.apana.org.au
Cc:	rusty@...tcorp.com.au, patrick.ohly@...el.com,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	divy@...lsio.com, rolandd@...co.com, xemul@...nvz.org,
	dcbw@...hat.com, libertas-dev@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] net: skb_orphan on dev_hard_start_xmit

From: Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:55:30 +0800

> Calling skb_orphan like this should be forbidden.  Apart from the
> problems already raised, it is a sign that the driver is trying to
> paper over a more serious issue of not cleaning up skb's timely.
> 
> Yes skb_orphan will work for the cases where calling the skb
> destructor allows forward progress, but for the cases where you
> really need to the skb to be freed (e.g., iSCSI or Xen), this
> simply doesn't work.
> 
> So anytime someone tries to propose such a solution it is a sign
> that they have bigger problems.

Agreed, but alas we are foaming at the mouth until we have a truly
usable alternative.

In particular the case of handling a device without usable TX
completion event indications is still quite troublesome.
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