netdev - Re: [RFC] arp announce, arp_proxy and windows ip conflict verification

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Message-Id: <20090705085203.332f0c3b.lk-netdev@lk-netdev.nosense.org>
Date:	Sun, 5 Jul 2009 08:52:03 +0930
From:	Mark Smith <lk-netdev@...netdev.nosense.org>
To:	Denys Fedoryschenko <denys@...p.net.lb>
Cc:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] arp announce, arp_proxy and windows ip conflict
 verification

On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:00:08 +0300
Denys Fedoryschenko <denys@...p.net.lb> wrote:

> On Sunday 05 July 2009 00:57:32 Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >
> > How can that possibly be a correct network configuration?
> >
> > Eric
> It is a problem to have different networks, who doesn't communicate one with 
> each other, in same ethernet segment?
> 
> Does it violate anything?

I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

It's a common enough situation. A second subnet (or more) is assigned
to a link because the first isn't large enough, and renumbering the
hosts into a larger subnet is not practical at the time. A
'one-armed router' is used up stream to have traffic go between the
different subnets, at the cost of traffic double traversing the link.
(The worst example I've seen is 25 subnets operating this way!)

Fundamentally it is no different to routing traffic to other subnets.
IP was designed on the assumption that there'd only be a single subnet
per link, so nothing was done to make this scenario more efficent.

IPv6 has introduced the ability for hosts to be told by their default
router that destinations they think are "offlink", because the address
falls outside a locally assigned or learned prefixes, are actually
"onlink", preventing this double traversing problem.

Regards,
Mark.

--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netdev" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html