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Message-Id: <1250748142.10937.4.camel@pasglop>
Date:	Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:02:22 +1000
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	Petri Gynther <pgynther@...gle.com>
Cc:	shemminger@...tta.com, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ibm_newemac: emac_close() needs to call 
 netif_carrier_off()

On Wed, 2009-08-19 at 15:32 -0700, Petri Gynther wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> I think your suggestion of adding netif_running() check to
> bond_check_dev_link() is valid and a good fix to the bonding driver.
> We can do this in a separate patch.
> 
> However, I think that the change to ibm_newemac: emac_close() is
> needed as well. ibm_newemac netdevs should not return
> netif_carrier_ok() == TRUE when they have been shut down.

Well, we definitely don't do that in sungem either, since we continue
the link polling while the interface is down... IE. interface up/down is
the data path and is orthogonal to the PHY polling in sungem. I suppose
we -could- stop the polling while the interface is down, though I think
my initial implementation did only poll the link while the interface was
up and that was causing endless problems with various laptop-net style
tools (however that was years and years ago).

Cheers,
Ben.

> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Petri Gynther<pgynther@...gle.com> wrote:
> > I agree with David. And, that's why I propose this diff for
> > ibm_newemac driver as well.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 2:34 PM, David Miller<davem@...emloft.net> wrote:
> >> From: Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>
> >> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:11:36 -0700
> >>
> >>> On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 14:00:00 -0700 (PDT)
> >>> Petri Gynther <pgynther@...gle.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> When ibm_newemac netdev instance is shutdown with "ifconfig down",
> >>>> the netdev interface does not go properly down. netif_carrier_ok()
> >>>> keeps returning TRUE even after "ifconfig down".
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem can be seen when ibm_newemac instances are slaves of
> >>>> a bonding interface. The bonding interface code uses netif_carrier_ok()
> >>>> to determine the link status of its slaves. When ibm_newemac slave is
> >>>> shutdown with "ifconfig down", the bonding interface won't detect any
> >>>> link status change because netif_carrier_ok() keeps returning TRUE.
> >>>
> >>> Bonding should be testing for netif_running() && netif_carrier_ok().
> >>>
> >>> In many devices state of carrier is undefined when device is down.
> >>
> >> But if you check all of the drivers, ethernet in particular, the
> >> convention is to call netif_carrier_off() in foo_close().
> >>
> >

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