netdev - Re: fanotify as syscalls

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Message-Id: <1253721097.2890.3.camel@dhcp231-106.rdu.redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 23 Sep 2009 11:51:37 -0400
From:	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
To:	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>
Cc:	Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@...hos.com>,
	Davide Libenzi <davidel@...ilserver.org>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@...e.de>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@...reable.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Evgeniy Polyakov <zbr@...emap.net>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"viro@...iv.linux.org.uk" <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	"alan@...ux.intel.com" <alan@...ux.intel.com>,
	"hch@...radead.org" <hch@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: fanotify as syscalls

On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 13:32 +0200, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:39:33 +0100
> Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@...hos.com> wrote:
> 
> > Lived with it because there was no other option. We used LSM while it
> > was available for modules but then it was taken away. 
> 
> ... at which point you could have submitted your LSM module for
> inclusion... you'd be the first (and only?) Anti Virus vendor that
> would be in the mainline kernel.. speaking of competitive advantage,
> coming out of the box in all distributions.

And users would be left in a situation between choosing an LSM which
actually does in provable ways increase security and using an AV
scanner.  Until magic solves the LSM stacking problem (it's been tried,
no magic) I don't think any distro wants AV vendors as LSMs.

-Eric

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