netdev - Re: PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy

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Message-ID: <7e84ed60910121135j656d1d9s8d84757e7e3d0078@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:35:25 -0500
From:	Rob Townley <rob.townley@...il.com>
To:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
Cc:	Matt Domsch <Matt_Domsch@...l.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-hotplug@...r.kernel.org,
	Narendra_K@...l.com, jordan_hargrave@...l.com
Subject: Re: PATCH: Network Device Naming mechanism and policy

On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 04:10:03PM -0500, Rob Townley wrote:
>> So when an add-in PCI NIC has a lower MAC than the motherboard NICs,
>> the add-in cards will come before the motherboard NICs.   i don't like it.
>
> Huh?  Have you used the MAC persistant rules?  If you add a new card,
> what does it pick for it?

i have a hp-dl360 (two nics) with a fibre optic add in nic.  On a
fresh install, the add-in is eth0.  i didn't like it, but ran it for
years.

>
>> But please whatever is done, make sure ping and tracert still works when
>> telling it to use a ethX source interface:
>>
>> eth0 = 4.3.2.8, the default gateway is thru eth1.
>> ping -I eth0 208.67.222.222              FAILS
>> ping -I 4.3.2.8 208.67.222.222          WORKS
>> tracert -i eth0 -I 208.67.222.222        FAILS
>> tracert -s 4.3.2.8 -I 208.67.222.222   WORKS
>> tracert -i eth0 208.67.222.222           FAILS
>> tracert -s 4.3.2.8 208.67.222.222      WORKS
>
> Again, is what we currently have broken?  I am confused as to what this
> is referring to.

Yes, ping and traceroute are broken at least on Fedora, CentOS, and busybox.
On a multinic, multigatewayed machine, passing ethX instead of the IP
address will give the false result: "Destination Host Unreachable"
when the machine's default gateway is reached thru the other nic.   In
the following example, the default gateway is thru eth1, not eth0.
Pay attention to the text between the '*****'.

ping -c 1 -B -I  eth0 208.67.222.222
PING 208.67.222.222 (208.67.222.222) from ***** 4.3.2.8 eth0*****:
56(84) bytes of data.
>From 4.3.2.8 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable

#ping -c 1 -B -I  4.3.2.8 208.67.222.222
PING 208.67.222.222 (208.67.222.222) from ***** 4.3.2.8 *****: 56(84)
bytes of data.
64 bytes from 208.67.222.222: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=562 ms



>
> greg k-h
>
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