netdev - Re: [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0912230922290.6879@localhost.localdomain>
Date:	Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:29:05 -0800 (PST)
From:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@...il.com>
cc:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@...il.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	"alacrityvm-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net" 
	<alacrityvm-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] AlacrityVM guest drivers for 2.6.33

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009, Gregory Haskins wrote:
> > 
> > And upstream submission is not always like this!
> 
> I would think the process would come to a grinding halt if it were ;)

Well, in all honesty, if it had been non-virtualized drivers I would just 
have pulled. The pull request all looked sane, the diffstat looked clean 
and non-intrusive, and I had no problems with any of that.

But the virtualization people always argue about the fifty-eleven 
different ways of doing things, and unlike real drivers - where the actual 
hardware places constraints on what the heck is going on - virtualization 
people seem to revel in making new interfaces weekly, and tend to be only 
incidentally limited by hardware (ie hardware interfaces may limit some 
_details_, but seldom any higher-level arguments).

So when I see another virtualization interface, I want the virtualization 
people to just argue it out amongst themselves. Thanks to the virtue of me 
personally not caring one whit about virtualization, I can stand back and 
just watch the fireworks.

Which is not to say that I enjoy it (I like the occasional flame-fest, but 
in order to like them I need to _care_ enough to get fired up about 
them!).

So I just don't want the in-fighting to take place in my tree, so I'd 
rather see the fighting die out _before_ I actually pull.

You people are all crazy.

		Linus
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