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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2009 19:26:02 -0800
From: ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
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Subject: Re: RFC: disablenetwork facility. (v4)
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com> writes:
> Quoting Eric W. Biederman (ebiederm@...ssion.com):
>> Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk> writes:
>>
>> >> > Execute != read. The executable file may contain secrets which must not
>> >> > be available to the user running the setuid program. If you fail the
>> >> > setuid, the user will be able to ptrace() and then the secret is
>> >> > revealed.
>> >> >
>> >> > It's amazing how many security holes appear from what seems like a very
>> >> > simple request.
>> >>
>> >> Do we have a security hole in nosuid mount option?
>> >> Can someone write a patch to fix it?
>> >
>> > If a setuid app can read a key when its erroneously not set setuid then
>> > the user can read it too.
>> >
>> > Anything you can do with ptrace you can do yourself !
>>
>> Now that I think about it this is really something completely separate
>> from setuid. This is about being able to read the text segment with
>> ptrace when you on have execute permissions on the file.
>>
>> I just skimmed through fs/exec.c and we set the undumpable process
>> flag in that case so ptrace should not work in that case.
>
> And in fact you can't do a new ptrace_attach, but if you're already
> tracing the task when it execs the unreadable-but-executable file,
> then the ptrace can continue.
>
> Just looking at the code, it appears 2.2 was the same way (though I
> could be missing where it used to enforce that).
>
> So, is that intended? What exactly would we do about it if not?
> Just refuse exec of a unreadable-but-executable file if we're
> being traced?
In common cap we drop the new capabilities if we are being ptraced.
Look for brm->unsafe.
Eric
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