Date:	Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:56:45 -0500
From:	Michael Breuer <mbreuer@...jas.com>
To:	Jarek Poplawski <jarkao2@...il.com>
Cc:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	flyboy@...il.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] af_packet: Don't use skb after dev_queue_xmit()

On 1/18/2010 3:46 PM, Jarek Poplawski wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 11:29:31AM -0500, Michael Breuer wrote:
>    
>> Ok - up on the two patches, no DMAR. Some early observations:
>>
>> 1. There's an early on MMAP oops (see below). This happens once, at
>> the completion of the transition to runlevel 5 (I've seen it
>> entering runlevel 3 as well). This does not recur when runlevels are
>> subsequently changed. I do not see this when running with DMAR
>> enabled.
>>      
> OK, you mentioned this oops (actually a warning only) happened during
> previous tests too.
>    
Yes - dk if it's significant or not. Only obvious difference between 
DMAR and not.
>    
>> 2. The dropped tx packet (DHCP) is a bit harder to recreate, but it
>> still happens.
>>      
> Btw, I guess you improved the test because you didn't mention it here,
> even after my explicit question?:
> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/149171
>    
I had been focusing on the hangs - dhcp causing the initial crash from 
December. After things stabilized with the af patch & skb may pull I 
started noticing the dropped tx packets. I reported the TX loss on the 
16th of January after confirming the issue.
>    
>> Interestingly, I initially saw no dropped packets
>> with ping - but after I went the DCHP route and eventually
>> reconnected, I could then cause dropped tx packets with ping. To
>> clarify:
>>
>> a) start throughput
>> b) ping device - no packet loss - this was true for the entire test run.
>> c) start throughput again
>> d) ping - no loss.
>> e) drop wifi on the device&  restart - first attempt worked. Repeat
>> attempt yielded the dropped DHCPOFFER packets. After about 6 tries,
>> the device reconnected to wifi.
>> f) ping again (after the reconnection) - packet loss rate about 80%.
>> g) simultaneously ping the wifi router - no loss.
>> h) After a while, packets are no longer dropped during ping. If I
>> manage to cause the dhcp drop again, and then ping after the device
>> finally reconnects, packet loss is significant for a while (maybe 30
>> sec to a minute). Then things return to normal. Note that the packet
>> loss continues even if the reported throughput drops to nil.
>> i) I can't cause the initial packet loss at RX rates below about
>> 30,000KBPS (as reported by nethogs).  At rates over 40 I can
>> reproduce this on this set of patches&  config about 60% of the
>> time.
>>      
> I forgot to mention, but did you try to check if these lost ping
> packets are "being dropped somewhere after wireshark sees them and
> before hitting the wire" like DHCPOFFER? Aren't there any sky2
> warnings/resets while this happens?
>
> Jarek P.
>    
Yes. There are no errors, and no statistics anywhere that I know to look 
reflect the loss. Nothing in netstat; ethtool -S; etc. The only loss 
reported is RX. The recent TX warnings/resets happened while the machine 
was up for several days and while unattended and under high RX load.
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