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Date:	Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:49:33 +0100
From:	Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@...ndegger.com>
To:	christian pellegrin <chripell@...e.org>
CC:	socketcan-core@...ts.berlios.de, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next-2.6 v2] can: mcp251x: Move to threaded interrupts
 	instead of workqueues.

christian pellegrin wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@...ndegger.com> wrote:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> The MERR should not come when the device is in bus-off. Nevertheless, it
> 
> yes, sorry it's in error-passive state!

Yep. That's where it sits if you send a message with no cable connected
or no other node on the bus.

>> space via error messages. For exactly that reason we do not disable bus
>> errors on other CAN controllers, like the SJA1000 or the AT91, even if
>> they may produce high load. But we may discuss some generic interface to
>> disable bus-errors somehow, maybe configurable via ctrlmode. What do you
>> think?
> 
> The transition of CAN error states is handled by the ERR interrupt,
> the MERR means "message error" and is fired when a transmission or
> receptions leads to an error. The problems with this interrupt are:
> 
> 1) it's impossible to know if it was a TX or RX error.
> 
> 2) if the error is accounted (for example) to TX the user will see
> ton's of TX errors even if he sent just one packet (this happens in
> error-passive mode for example) which could be confusing.

It's the same on the SJA1000, our reference controller.

> 3) I guess that microchip has a specific use of this interrupt in mind
> which explains it's drawbacks. From the data sheet:
> 
> "7.4        Message Error Interrupt
> When an error occurs during transmission or reception
> of a message the message error flag (CAN-
> INTF.MERRF) will be set and, if the CANINTE.MERRE
> bit is set, an interrupt will be generated on the INT pin.
> This is intended to be used to facilitate baud rate deter-
> mination when used in conjunction with listen-only
> mode."

OK. If the bus-error does not provide additional information, like ack,
form, stuff, bit, etc. error, it's maybe not worth to support it.
Therefore, not enabling MERR is fine for the moment.

> I think that a much more useful information to somehow export to the
> user are the TEC and REC counters. I checked other CAN drivers but no
> one seems to do this. Anyway let me know what do you think so I could
> prepere the final patch now that OSM problems where sorted out.

CAN experts told me/us, that the bus-errors might be important
information for an apps. I just started a thread on how to improve our
current bus-error handling implementation.

Wolfgang.

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