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Date:	Tue, 13 Apr 2010 15:39:06 +0200
From:	Paweł Staszewski <pstaszewski@...are.pl>
To:	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@...il.com>
CC:	Changli Gao <xiaosuo@...il.com>,
	Benny Amorsen <benny+usenet@...rsen.dk>,
	zhigang gong <zhigang.gong@...il.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Strange packet drops with heavy firewalling

W dniu 2010-04-13 14:53, Eric Dumazet pisze:
> Le mardi 13 avril 2010 à 14:33 +0200, Paweł Staszewski a écrit :
>    
>> W dniu 2010-04-13 01:18, Changli Gao pisze:
>>      
>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Benny Amorsen<benny+usenet@...rsen.dk>   wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>>    99:         24    1306226          3          2   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-tx-0
>>>>    100:      15735    1648774          3          7   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-tx-1
>>>>    101:          8         11          9    1083022   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-tx-2
>>>>    102:          0          0          0          0   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-tx-3
>>>>    103:         18         15       6131    1095383   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-rx-0
>>>>    104:        217         32      46544    1335325   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-rx-1
>>>>    105:        154    1305595        218         16   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-rx-2
>>>>    106:         17         16       8229    1467509   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1-rx-3
>>>>    107:          0          0          1          0   PCI-MSI-edge      eth1
>>>>    108:          2         14         15    1003053   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-tx-0
>>>>    109:       8226    1668924        478        487   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-tx-1
>>>>    110:          3    1188874         17         12   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-tx-2
>>>>    111:          0          0          0          0   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-tx-3
>>>>    112:        203        185       5324    1015263   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-rx-0
>>>>    113:       4141    1600793        153        159   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-rx-1
>>>>    114:      16242    1210108        436       3124   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-rx-2
>>>>    115:        267       4173      19471    1321252   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0-rx-3
>>>>    116:          0          1          0          0   PCI-MSI-edge      eth0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> irqbalanced seems to have picked CPU1 and CPU3 for all the interrupts,
>>>> which to my mind should cause the same problem as before (where CPU1 and
>>>> CPU3 was handling all packets). Yet the box clearly works much better
>>>> than before.
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> irqbalanced? I don't think it can work properly. Try RPS in netdev and
>>> linux-next tree, and if cpu load isn't even, try this patch:
>>> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/49915/ .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Yes without irqbalance - and with irq affinity set by hand router will
>> work much better.
>>
>> But I don't think that RPS will help him - I make some tests with RPS
>> and AFFINITY - results in attached file.
>> Test router make traffic management (hfsc) for almost 9k users
>>      
> Thanks for sharing Pawel.
>
> But obviously you are mixing apples and oranges.
>
>   Are you aware that HFSC and other trafic shapers do serialize access to
> data structures ? If many cpus try to access these structures in //, you
> have a lot of cache line misses. HFSC is a real memory hog :(
>
>    
Thanks Eric for explanation why RPS is useless for traffic management 
routers.

> Benny do have firewalling (highly parallelized these days, iptables was
> well improved in this area), but no traffic control.
>
>    
Hmm so maybe better choice for traffic management is use iptables for 
"filter classification" instead of "u32 filters"- something like 
iptables CLASSIFY target

> Anyway, Benny has now multiqueue devices, and therefore RPS will not
> help him. I suggested RPS before his move to multiqueue, and multiqueue
> is the most sensible way to improve things, when no central lock is
> used. Every cpu can really work in //.
>
>
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