netdev - Re: patch sysfs-implement-sysfs-tagged-directory-support.patch added to gregkh-2.6 tree

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Message-ID: <20100430155845.GA6987@suse.de>
Date:	Fri, 30 Apr 2010 08:58:45 -0700
From:	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>
To:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@...ibm.com>
Cc:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>, bcrl@...et.ca,
	benjamin.thery@...l.net, cornelia.huck@...ibm.com,
	eric.dumazet@...il.com, kay.sievers@...y.org,
	netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: patch sysfs-implement-sysfs-tagged-directory-support.patch
 added to gregkh-2.6 tree

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 10:43:21AM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Tejun Heo (tj@...nel.org):
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On 04/30/2010 04:29 PM, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > Hmm, but looking back over the previous thread (Mar 31) I guess you
> > > mean more in-line comments around the callbacks, presumably things
> > > like class_dir_child_ns_type() and struct kobj_ns_type_operations
> > > members?
> > 
> > In-line.  What they're, how they're supposed to be used, which calling
> > context is expected, what can be returned and so on.
> > 
> > > It sounds like what you'd really like is to have any explicit
> > > mention to namespaces pulled out of drivers/base (layering as you
> > > keep saying)?  But will there be a use for this outside of
> > > namespaces?  Does trying to anticipate that fall into the category
> > > of over-abstraction?
> > 
> > I wouldn't mind limited amount of layering exceptions as long as
> > they're clearly documented.  What I'm primarily worried about is not
> > the possibility of other users but more the obfuscation of the whole
> > sysfs-kobject-driver model thing which is already overly abstracted
> > and obfuscated (at least it seems to me that way).
> > 
> > NS needs tagged support in the driver model which in itself is fine
> > and I also understand that from someone who's primarily working on NS,
> > adding a bit on top of the whole thing wouldn't seem like much of a
> > problem.  To me it seems like worsening a problem which is already
> > pretty bad.  I hope you could understand my POV too.
> 
> I do.  I can take a stab monday at pushing a cloned version of Eric's
> tree with comments added, if Eric doesn't have time.  (Or a patch on
> top of Greg's tree)

On top of Greg's tree please :)

thanks,

greg k-h
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