netdev - Re: [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding devices

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Message-ID: <4C062CBD.7090906@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:04:45 +0800
From:	Cong Wang <amwang@...hat.com>
To:	Jay Vosburgh <fubar@...ibm.com>
CC:	Flavio Leitner <fbl@...close.org>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Matt Mackall <mpm@...enic.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	bridge@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	Andy Gospodarek <gospo@...hat.com>,
	Neil Horman <nhorman@...driver.com>,
	Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@...hat.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...ux-foundation.org>,
	bonding-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
Subject: Re: [v5 Patch 1/3] netpoll: add generic support for bridge and bonding
 devices

On 06/02/10 02:42, Jay Vosburgh wrote:
> Cong Wang<amwang@...hat.com>  wrote:
>
>> On 06/01/10 03:08, Flavio Leitner wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 01:56:52PM +0800, Cong Wang wrote:
>>>> Hi, Flavio,
>>>>
>>>> Please use the attached patch instead, try to see if it solves
>>>> all your problems.
>>>
>>> I tried and it hangs. No backtraces this time.
>>> The bond_change_active_slave() prints before NETDEV_BONDING_FAILOVER
>>> notification, so I think it won't work.
>>
>> Ah, I thought the same.
>>
>>>
>>> Please, correct if I'm wrong, but when a failover happens with your
>>> patch applied, the netconsole would be disabled forever even with
>>> another healthy slave, right?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, this is an easy solution, because bonding has several modes,
>> it is complex to make netpoll work in different modes.
>
> 	If I understand correctly, the root cause of the problem with
> netconsole and bonding is that bonding is, ultimately, performing
> printks with a write lock held, and when netconsole recursively calls
> into bonding to send the printk over the netconsole, there is a deadlock
> (when the bonding xmit function attempts to acquire the same lock for
> read).


Yes.

>
> 	You're trying to avoid the deadlock by shutting off netconsole
> (permanently, it looks like) for one problem case: a failover, which
> does some printks with a write lock held.
>
> 	This doesn't look to me like a complete solution, there are
> other cases in bonding that will do printk with write locks held.  I
> suspect those will also hang netconsole as things exist today, and won't
> be affected by your patch below.


I can expect that, bonding modes are complex.

>
> 	For example:
>
> 	The sysfs functions to set the primary (bonding_store_primary)
> or active (bonding_store_active_slave) options: a pr_info is called to
> provide a log message of the results.  These could be tested by setting
> the primary or active options via sysfs, e.g.,
>
> echo eth0>  /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/primary
> echo eth0>  /sys/class/net/bond0/bonding/active
>
> 	If the kernel is defined with DEBUG, there are a few pr_debug
> calls within write_locks (bond_del_vlan, for example).
>
> 	If the slave's underlying device driver's ndo_vlan_rx_register
> or ndo_vlan_rx_kill_vid functions call printk (and it looks like some do
> for error cases, e.g., igbvf, ehea, enic), those would also presumably
> deadlock (because bonding holds its write_lock when calling the ndo_
> vlan functions).
>
> 	It also appears that (with the patch below) some nominally
> normal usage patterns will immediately disable netconsole.  The one that
> comes to mind is if the primary= option is set (to "eth1" for this
> example), but that slave not enslaved first (the slaves are added, say,
> eth0 then eth1).  In that situation, when the primary slave (eth1 here)
> is added, the first thing that will happen is a failover, and that will
> disable netconsole.
>

Thanks for your detailed explanation!

This is why I said bonding is complex. I guess we would have to adjust
netpoll code for different bonding cases, one solution seems not fix all.
I am not sure how much work to do, since I am not familiar with bonding
code. Maybe Andy can help?

For the previous patch, it at least can make Flavio happy. :)

Thanks!
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