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Date:	Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:56:07 +0800
From:	"Xin, Xiaohui" <xiaohui.xin@...el.com>
To:	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	"Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong@...el.com>
CC:	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@...tta.com>,
	"netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"mst@...hat.com" <mst@...hat.com>, "mingo@...e.hu" <mingo@...e.hu>,
	"davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	"jdike@...ux.intel.com" <jdike@...ux.intel.com>
Subject: RE: [RFC PATCH v7 01/19] Add a new structure for skb buffer from
	external.

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Herbert Xu [mailto:herbert@...dor.apana.org.au]
>Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 2:15 PM
>To: Dong, Eddie
>Cc: Xin, Xiaohui; Stephen Hemminger; netdev@...r.kernel.org; kvm@...r.kernel.org;
>linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; mst@...hat.com; mingo@...e.hu; davem@...emloft.net;
>jdike@...ux.intel.com
>Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 01/19] Add a new structure for skb buffer from external.
>
>On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 09:03:46AM +0800, Dong, Eddie wrote:
>>
>> In current patch, each SKB for the assigned device (SRIOV VF or NIC or a complete
>queue pairs) uses the buffer from guest, so it eliminates copy completely in software and
>requires hardware to do so. If we can have an additonal place to store the buffer per skb (may
>cause copy later on), we can do copy later on or re-post the buffer to assigned NIC driver
>later on. But that may be not very clean either :(
>
>OK, if I understand you correctly then I don't think have a
>problem.  With your current patch-set you have exactly the same
>situation when the skb->data is reallocated as a kernel buffer.
>

When will skb->data to be reallocated? May you point me the code path?

>This is OK because as you correctly argue, it is a rare situation.
>
>With my proposal you will need to get this extra external buffer
>in even less cases, because you'd only need to do it if the skb
>head grows, which only happens if it becomes encapsulated.
>So let me explain it in a bit more detail:
>
>Our packet starts out as a purely non-linear skb, i.e., skb->head
>contains nothing and all the page frags come from the guest.
>
>During host processing we may pull data into skb->head but the
>first frag will remain unless we pull all of it.  If we did do
>that then you would have a free external buffer anyway.
>
>Now in the common case the header may be modified or pulled, but
>it very rarely grows.  So you can just copy the header back into
>the first frag just before we give it to the guest.
>
Since the data is still there, so recompute the page offset and size is ok, right?

>Only in the case where the packet header grows (e.g., encapsulation)
>would you need to get an extra external buffer.
>
>Cheers,
>--
>Email: Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>
>Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/
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