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Date:	Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:35:29 -0700
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>
Cc:	Greg KH <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@...ux-mips.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
	netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sysfs: Don't allow the creation of symlinks we can't remove

Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net> writes:

> On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 03:05 -0700, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
>> >> Detect this problem up front and simply don't create symlinks we won't
>> >> be able to remove later.  This prevents symlink leakage and fails in
>> >> a much clearer and more understandable way.
>> >
>> > Eric, I was looking into sysfs netns support for wireless, and with this
>> > patch applied I just get the warning and no network interfaces.
>> 
>> The warning patch just makes things fail faster.  Although I get some of the
>> wireless interfaces for hwsim when I use this one.
>
> Hmm, I didn't.

To be clear I just get hwsim0.  Not wlan0 or wlan1.

>> > Was there any patch that was supposed to fix hwsim?
>> 
>> - If you have my patches that fix CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED,
>>   you should find everything works there.
>
> But then I was carrying those two patches too.
>
>> As for a proper fix I have just resent my one liner to
>> drives/base/core.c I can't think of a better option right now.
>> 
>> For hwsim it is arguable, but the behaviour of sysfs for the
>> bluetooth bnep driver is very clearly a 3 year old regression,
>> and the cause is exactly the same.
>
> Right, it actually starts working again with that patch you sent.
> However, netns support is really broken:
>
> <create net namespace, put phy0/wlan0 into it>

Do we have a convenient command line tool to do this?
I remember there being a different netlink message from
normal network devices.

> root@kvm:~# ip link
> 3: wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN qlen 1000
>     link/ether 02:00:00:00:00:00 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 7: lo: <LOOPBACK> mtu 16436 qdisc noop state DOWN 
>     link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
> root@kvm:~# ls /sys/class/net/
> eth0  hwsim0  lo  wlan1  wlan2

I think this is actually the output of something working.

I expect after you created a new netns you didn't mount
a new instance of /sys.  /sys remembers which netns you
had when you mounted it.  So you have to mount /sys again
so you can see the /sys/class/net for the network namespace
you are in.

Eric

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